• SONAR
  • The new console emulator. You be the judge. (p.5)
2012/09/21 19:04:33
Zo
one question guyz ...in peak mode can you tell me if the vu is on pair with sonar 's one or it has it's own calibration ?

don't have X2 yet ..


2012/09/21 19:18:18
Danny Danzi
tunekicker


Guitarpima


I agree with Tunekickers comment. The only thing is, I would have had to rebuild the mix entirely which would have skewed the results anyway. I though about it and decided that leaving the mix the way it was was the best way.

This would make A/B comparisons pretty hard, I recognize that. I just think a huge part of the A/B has to do with gain staging and mix choices when using one or the other. 


Honestly I don't really care about A/B comparisons. If I like the way it sounds when I add CEM then I will use it. I'm going to try a mix where it is the first thing I do, and if I like it that would be my MO moving forward. Then I guess we'll see. 


I use a lot of UAD plugins because I like warmth and tone. So if CEM is any good, I am going to like it a lot, and that will modify my workflow quite a bit.


Peace,


Tunes

My feelings as well. In my opinion, these CEM's add a little saturation and high end sparkle. I also feel that I have to jump on them considerably before I hear a change and then I have to question whether I am hearing a volume boost or something that is physically coming from the plug itself.
 
The middle one....N I think it is? Whatever the middle one is.....gves out the most sound alteration. The other two sound similar to me to where I need to jack them to really hear them but they are definitely cleaner than the middle one. My best explanation of what I hear from these so far would be sort of along the lines of a BBE without the low end contour. They just give you a little dirt and sparkle. If you need that kind of sound, it's there for you. Those using UAD plugs to warm things up probably won't like the effects of these.
 
I felt the Waves versions did a bit better job at this as well SToons. You can REALLY hear a difference when you kick them on especially when you use the track and bus versions at the same time. At any rate, the jury is still out for me on these plugs. I can see where they would be useful for many users. Me personally, I've spent a lifetime cleaning up my mixes as well as others mixes....the last thing I want to do is dirty things up synthetically unless it's for effects purposes...but that's just me. :)
 
-Danny
2012/09/21 19:24:27
ltb
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2012/09/21 20:16:39
Crg
The only difference I heard was in the intro on the 2nd. Much fuller.
2012/09/21 20:36:55
Zo
Thks carl , i know we can't calibrate (this is set by cake) just want to know if it was : 0 db = 0 db (in sonar) ?!;)
2012/09/21 21:19:47
Guitarpima
Danny Danzi


tunekicker


Guitarpima


I agree with Tunekickers comment. The only thing is, I would have had to rebuild the mix entirely which would have skewed the results anyway. I though about it and decided that leaving the mix the way it was was the best way.

This would make A/B comparisons pretty hard, I recognize that. I just think a huge part of the A/B has to do with gain staging and mix choices when using one or the other. 


Honestly I don't really care about A/B comparisons. If I like the way it sounds when I add CEM then I will use it. I'm going to try a mix where it is the first thing I do, and if I like it that would be my MO moving forward. Then I guess we'll see. 


I use a lot of UAD plugins because I like warmth and tone. So if CEM is any good, I am going to like it a lot, and that will modify my workflow quite a bit.


Peace,


Tunes

My feelings as well. In my opinion, these CEM's add a little saturation and high end sparkle. I also feel that I have to jump on them considerably before I hear a change and then I have to question whether I am hearing a volume boost or something that is physically coming from the plug itself.
 
The middle one....N I think it is? Whatever the middle one is.....gves out the most sound alteration. The other two sound similar to me to where I need to jack them to really hear them but they are definitely cleaner than the middle one. My best explanation of what I hear from these so far would be sort of along the lines of a BBE without the low end contour. They just give you a little dirt and sparkle. If you need that kind of sound, it's there for you. Those using UAD plugs to warm things up probably won't like the effects of these.
 
I felt the Waves versions did a bit better job at this as well SToons. You can REALLY hear a difference when you kick them on especially when you use the track and bus versions at the same time. At any rate, the jury is still out for me on these plugs. I can see where they would be useful for many users. Me personally, I've spent a lifetime cleaning up my mixes as well as others mixes....the last thing I want to do is dirty things up synthetically unless it's for effects purposes...but that's just me. :)
 
-Danny

I'm still on the fence myself. I hear a difference when I added them to every track and buss but as stated, it would be better to start the mix off with it in the first place.
 
 When I recorded that track, I did not use compression on the input. I read your article about compression and will start using a little bit, as stated in your article, and see what results I get. I have to wait for my OC to come home though. It's off at Roland getting a labotomy or something.
2012/09/22 11:21:50
BluerecordingStudios
I just checked it agains Waves NLS. Seems that Neve type is in the same ballpark. SSL models are different. Trident sound is something new for me, I will be testing it...
2012/09/22 12:03:57
kevo
Guitarpima


I took a mix (not mastered) and added the CEM to all the tracks. You be the judge. Which one has the CEM added.
 
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14693440/Mo%20the%20Lawnda.mp3
 
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14693440/Mo%20the%20Lawnda%202.mp3
 
 
Thank you so much for posting this!  I never knew the words to that song before.  Now I can sing it! WOOT!
 
Papa I bought a new lawnmover....
 
j/k :)

2012/09/23 00:19:58
Guitarpima
The more and more I insert the CEM to tracks I've been working on, the more it grows on me. I'm liking the 3rd button, I guess that's the API(?), as it's sounds the best combined.
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