Sounds like another feature that took a step forward and at least one back. OPTIONS AND FLEXIBILITY CAKEWALK. Stop painting users and yourselves into the corner with rigid implementations and half baked features.

Mystic38

mudgel


There are some settings available.
I can double click a MIDI track and the PRV opens full screen for that track

Mike, that certainly works for tracks, but unless there is something hidden it doesnt for lanes...

You're right. The project I loaded didn't have layers, so no lanes. I didn't fully understand, but do now. Yes a silly limitation.

Are you saying lanes can only be zoomed in so far vertically?

I was sad that my ancient Mackie HDR2496 has a far more common sense simple yet efficient 'takes' implementation.  I admit I am biased from years of using that system.
I'm hoping I like the Lanes in X2 as it seems more simmilar to what i'm used to.   
  

Mystic38


Well that IS a bummer..as you cannot double click for full window or auto zoom to get decent height to edit.... manual track heights??....<gasp>

Can I ask what you're wanting to achive by exclusively PRVing midi take lanes? I can't see my self using the track lanes (on midi tracks) for anything other than slip editing. 

If you are having a problem opening up your track lanes, make sure "auto track zoom" is not ticked. You'll see it in the "view" next to options....not "view" near file/edit etc. They get big enough for me as long as that box is not ticked. Not sure they will be big enough for you guys though. Hope this helps.

-Danny

Danny Danzi


If you are having a problem opening up your track lanes, make sure "auto track zoom" is not ticked. You'll see it in the "view" next to options....not "view" near file/edit etc. They get big enough for me as long as that box is not ticked. Not sure they will be big enough for you guys though. Hope this helps.

-Danny

My lanes are the same size no matter whether autozoom is on or off. I can see that some might find the vertical size limitation a bad thing, but they're big enough for my purposes. Plus it's kinda nice that the open up to a default "max" size, saves me a bit of deciding how big I need them to be 

The whole deal is certainly a million times better than "layers" used to be!

SvenArne

The whole deal is certainly a million times better than "layers" used to be! 

Absolutely. No way I would ever want to see layers again. But each to their own.


Drawing automation in those lanes is a breeze now, and editing them too, cut and paste, moving groups of nodes, the whole process is miles better.

I'm also of the view that I wouldn't expect my MIDI tracks to be in take lanes. Just Audio tracks. And I'm am using one lane per automation parameter (which I think is the only way you can do it anyway).

SvenArne

Mystic38


Well that IS a bummer..as you cannot double click for full window or auto zoom to get decent height to edit.... manual track heights??....<gasp>

Can I ask what you're wanting to achive by exclusively PRVing midi take lanes? I can't see my self using the track lanes (on midi tracks) for anything other than slip editing. 

I actually record midi performances... so may do several takes of one section and of course a take may need some editing... and the inability to do so effectively makes take lanes relatively useless and leaves me back with recording takes in sequential tracks

Danny Danzi


If you are having a problem opening up your track lanes, make sure "auto track zoom" is not ticked. You'll see it in the "view" next to options....not "view" near file/edit etc. They get big enough for me as long as that box is not ticked. Not sure they will be big enough for you guys though. Hope this helps.

-Danny

Thanks Danny,

No, it's not that I just can't get them any wider.

Of course I might be missing something since it's new but so far lanes are limiting, slowing down my audio editing track workflow.
i.e. doing very precise editing between audio clips across 5 or so lanes plus the volume nodes way above/ below really slows editing down.

Along with that my other problem is similar to the previous first X1 or 8.5 release- 'jerky' windows..IIRC there was a bug fix/ patch for it eventually.
Goes to the top / bottom when expanding tracks in tv. Expanding PC jerks the screen viewing area left or right, always having to scroll back to the desired area.
I'm guessing this may have something to due with all the crashes people are reporting simply by moving around in views or PC.

Mystic38


I actually record midi performances... so may do several takes of one section and of course a take may need some editing... 

So you need to edit a lane while keeping overlapping lanes invisible? I can kinda understand that, but I always wait with the editing until my comp is finished. The take lanes will be of great help to me, for slip editing the takes and then going into the PRV for the whole track for deep midi editing.


Shouldn't be too hard for the Bakers to make the PRV lane-specific though, now that we got the nice little icon up in the right-hand corner of every clip. Keep pushing bro!