Hi, I wanted to ask a very specific question.

I saw some comments elsewhere that the ability to zoom take lanes may be constrained to some specific height?

In past versions of SONAR I have enjoyed zooming in on any clip in a layer as far as I want.  I sometimes appreciate the ability to fill the screen with a single layer in a track so that I can track down the source of a small noise.

I'm thinking the comments I have just read, that this is no longer possible, must be the result of some small confusion.



Can someone explain just how easy it is to zoom any single take lane to fill the screen in the vertical axis?


Thanks.

best regards,
mike

You can't. The maximum size it expands to would be about one fifth of the entire track view (on my 1900x1080 screen).

That's hard for me to believe.

The only comment I will make is that I have felt that many other DAWs comping capabilities were hampered by an inability to see the smallest details while using their recommended comp tools.

The ability to zoom in and see the smallest details in SONAR's was one of the features that made me feel SONAR was both the fastest and most accurate comping tool available.

If this is true, It seems, to me, as if Cakewalk has just surrendered one of SONAR's greatest benefits.



Thank you for explaining Sven.


best regards,
mike

For me, this limitation is mostly theoretical, but I'm sure some people dive into their comp tracks in greater detail. You can always expand the take if you hide the lanes, though...

But you can still make the main track as wide as you want and therefore still see the finer details of your wave?

SvenArne


For me, this limitation is mostly theoretical, but I'm sure some people dive into their comp tracks in greater detail. You can always expand the take if you hide the lanes, though...

Can you elaborate?

What I have experienced when I comp several takes into one using my favorite version of SONAR is that my guests that are familiar with other DAWs almost always say something like "wow, that seems really, really fast"... which is there way of acknowledging that they are taking the accuracy for granted while being amazed at how quickly I zoom in and out search out the best of the best while annihilating the worst of the best.

I can assure you that for me, this is far more than theoretical. It's one of the features that made me a SONAR fan boy.

Perhaps your explanation above provides the functionality I'm hoping for.

Thanks again.

best regards,
mike

Hiding lanes (layers)  to expand is self-defeating for myself. Sometimes I really need to zoom in very close while editing between each clip. 
If I hide the lanes that means I have to zoom out even father horizontally to get tight editing done.

Previously & with layers doing this type of editing was done quickly while actually using less screen area than with lanes (plus the clip auto rebuild was a nice feature)

As I said maybe I'm missing a setting?

mike_mccue

 I can assure you that for me, this is far more than theoretical. It's one of the features that made me a SONAR fan boy.

I can assure you, you have many features that make you more than a SONAR fan boy 


Have you ever used Logic 8 and later? I'd say that SONAR's new take lanes are A LOT like that. Very fast operation and the smoothness of maximizing and hiding the lanes is way beyond what it used to be. 


My point is that the lanes get more than big enough that I can see were to put my edits. I always do my deep editing on the finished comp track, and by hiding the lanes, that's no problem.

You really should try for yourself. A lot of the improvements in X2 seem to me like the sort of stuff I can remember you asking for in the past (even before X1).

Sven

P.S. I AM a SONAR fan boy, but I've still reported two genuine bugs since the release of X2.

Mike

which is there way of acknowledging that they are taking the accuracy for granted while being amazed at how quickly I zoom in and out

Hey Mike, Zooming in and out to where I want to be has always been a problem for me. 
I know I must be missing something but Sonar never zooms to where it should. 
Do you use cntrl/arrows, or the little window slider bars on side and bottom, Or???


Please teach me how to zoom in and out effectively so I can be amazed.
Thanks.

Hi Tim,
  There's no secret that I know of.

 I use a wacom tablet for a mouse.

 I think that having that makes it very easy to perform stuff like this faster and more accurate than many can imagine or may have witnessed.
 
 I zoom in to the sample level in the horizontal and everything in between.

 I haven't used a noise gate since my days of mic-ing metal drum kits in the 80's with too many mics. So I like to zoom in on the vertical and find all the stuff other people may possibly ignore.
 
 I don't know.... but I'm glad to learn this detail about Take Lanes without having to pay to be disappointed.

 Thanks again to Sven for helpful and accurate explanations.

best regards,
mike