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2017/11/03 18:47:56
Mistergreen
I want to get all of my multisamples onto my "samples" drive. I edited my registry to look for my dimension pro multisamples on my F drive. The key I edited is (HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cakewalk Music Software\dp). I changed the multisample folder to F:\Dimension Pro\multisamples. The problem I'm having now is that DimPro is giving me the Multisample Not Found error and it's looking for particular wav files. However, the file in my multisamples folder is flac. When I do a search for the missing wav file, I find it on my C drive under Program Files\Cakewalk\Vstplugins\Cakewalk Sound Center\Modules\Multisamples\Dimension Pro\00 - Wavetables. Is there another registry entry I need to edit? I'm wondering what the simplest solution is. I would like to get them all in one place if possible.
 
Thanks in advance!
2017/11/03 19:22:33
Zargg
Hi. I have all my samples on a separate drive, and have done so for years.
I have never touched the registry for this, as I wouldn't know how.
Perhaps reinstall it, and tell it where to look for the samples when opening it for the forst time.
IIRC, that is what I do when doing a fresh Win install. (it's been a few months, and I don't have my notes here now)
Others will probably know better.
All the best.
2017/11/03 19:43:26
Mistergreen
Thanks Zargg. I did do the reinstall and told it to put the multisamples on my F drive. That didn't seem to fix the issue. It looks like the reinstall loaded flac files and DimPro is still looking for wav files.
2017/11/04 15:17:22
bitflipper
Can you give us an example of a specific file that it can't find, and/or the specific sfz that's loading it?
 
Maybe it's not an issue of where the samples are installed, but rather a case of some files actually being missing. Most of Dim Pro's samples are flac, with only a handful of wavs. You can open the sfz with Notepad and see which actual filenames it wants to load.
2017/11/04 16:03:45
chuckebaby
Im sure you know this but what happens is you load the SFZ file and it tells the synth where the Flac/wav files are.
If these files are not all placed in the correct directory's you will end up with missing files.
I would load the back up of your registry. never mess with that unless your house is burning down.
 
Some will disagree and recommend such moves. I however never touch the Reg unless it is totally necessary.
2017/11/04 16:12:37
gustabo
It's easiest to move the files/folders and then make a junction.
 
2017/11/04 22:35:07
Kev999
Mistergreen
I want to get all of my multisamples onto my "samples" drive. I edited my registry to look for my dimension pro multisamples on my F drive. The key I edited is (HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cakewalk Music Software\dp). I changed the multisample folder to F:\Dimension Pro\multisamples. The problem I'm having now is that DimPro is giving me the Multisample Not Found error...

 
Set the filepath for the level above the multisamples folder rather than the multisamples folder itself, i.e F:\Dimension Pro instead of F:\Dimension Pro\multisamples.
2017/11/05 01:39:49
bitflipper
There are two aspects to filename resolution. First, Dim Pro has to be able to find the programs (the sfz files). You don't appear to have a problem there, because you are able to choose one from within DP and load it. Your problem is with the second step, which is when DP reads the sfz file to figure out where the actual samples are. Everything it needs to know is in the sfz file.
 
Sfz files can be located anywhere, because the sample paths contained within are relative to the sfz's location. For example, here's part of an sfz from Dim Pro:
 
<control>
default_path=Jacyn Riffs\
<region> sample=Riffs 1 - 001.flac key=c3
<region> sample=Riffs 1 - 002.flac key=d3
<region> sample=Riffs 1 - 003.flac key=e3
 
The "default_path" line tells DP where to look for files. Because the directory, "Jacyn Riffs\" has no slash in front of it, that means it's a relative, rather than an absolute, pathname. In other words, it's telling DP to assume it's a subdirectory underneath (relative to) the sfz's home directory.
 
If you look in the Multisamples folder, you'll see "Jacyn Riffs 1.sfz" and within its folder is a sub-folder named "Jacyn Riffs", and that's where the actual samples are. When Dim Pro opens a sample, it builds the complete pathname by appending the flac filename to the folder it's expected to be in, e.g. "Jacyn Riffs\Riffs 1 - 001.flac". That's the path it passes to Windows to open the file. If Windows can't find it, the open call fails and DP reports it as missing.
 
What this means is that the sample folders must be co-located with the sfz files, but beyond that it literally doesn't matter where you put the whole shebang. So you could stash "Jacyn Riffs 1.sfz" in g:\some_folder\cool_stuff\try_and_find_this and it wouldn't matter, as long as the sample folder "Jacyn Riffs" is there too.
 
One thing that could have gone wrong when moving the samples could be that you only moved the top-level folders and forgot the sub-folders. In that case, none of the sample files specified in the sfz would exist in the place it expected to find them. That's why I suggested supplying the names of both the sfz and the missing sample name. Looking inside the sfz would tell us where it expected the files to be, and we could quickly ascertain whether those files truly exist there.
2017/11/05 18:14:16
...wicked
I had this problem some time ago with DimPro, and even worse when I installed RapPro since they all apparently decided to use slightly different pathing. Like said above what fixed it for me was noting that the path should be set one level above the multisamples folder. But these kinds of shenanigans were common for me. There IS another registry entry for DimPro file paths, though I forget it off-hand. 
2017/11/06 21:38:41
Mistergreen
bitflipper
Can you give us an example of a specific file that it can't find, and/or the specific sfz that's loading it?
 
Maybe it's not an issue of where the samples are installed, but rather a case of some files actually being missing. Most of Dim Pro's samples are flac, with only a handful of wavs. You can open the sfz with Notepad and see which actual filenames it wants to load.


 
Sure, so just as an example I try to load the first program in the 01 - Dimensions category called "11th Dimension". It tells me it can't find the following multisamples:
zeta add 8.wav
saw 8080.wav
 
When I do a search for these, I only find "zeta add 8.flac" and "saw 8080.flac" in my F:\Dimension Pro\multisamples\00 - Wavetables directory.
 
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