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2016/02/24 06:50:09
gustabo
rtucker55
Paul P
rtucker55
I see a LANDR entry in the Windows control panel, Programs and Features. I am going to give Cakewalk a call Wednesday to see if it will break anything if I uninstall it. It's just more crap I don't need or want...
 
I really feel we should have been given a Choice whether we wanted to install it or not.




Did you do a manual install of Newburyport ?
I'm wondering if it might not be possible to deselect it during a manual install.
 
I'll wait to see what happens with this (and other things) before updating.  I'm in no rush, Manchester works fine.
 




I used C3 to install the Sonar update and the 'user manual' update. I did not see anything that would have allowed me Not to install Landr.
 
Good thought about trying a manual update, I'll ask about that as well.


I do manual installs from my account in the store rather than CCC and there is an option to install Landr or not to.
2016/02/24 08:27:42
cclarry
I can see, from the last two updates, which the previous one normally would have been a "major update", that this "subscription" model is killing the excitement of "upgrading".  

Don't hang me yet - let me explain...

They've done a great job, and it's nice to get "something" every month, but the anticipation of getting "new stuff" when purchasing a new edition every year, and the need to "entice us" to re-up throughout the year, seems to have died a horrendous death.

Normally we would have gotten a "package" of new features all at once, then dive headlong into them to learn them, but now we get them "dribbled out to us slowly", so I'm not really sure which way is better, piecemeal or lump...but it sure seems that "now" there is no "build up of excitement and anticipation" that used to be there...it seems that the element and build up of "excitement" that used to precede a new release has all but died for me with the new model...add to that the fact that we only had to "re-learn" once a year, and now, sort of, have to do it every month, and it becomes kind of "counter-productive" in an odd and round about way...( I know it's not "that much" so relax, it's just a thought)
 
I know many love it, and there are a lot of new features slated to be "dribbled out" all year...but, for me, it has kind of killed that "build up" of "excitement and anticipation" that always preceded the "upgrade every year" model, and it just seems to me now that that "thrill is gone"...

Just my feelings, and, of course, YMMV...
2016/02/24 09:06:17
BobF
I see advantages, disadvantages and a coupla flaws in the new model.  Overall I think it's a net positive.
 
LANDR?  Really?  The install isn't optional?  Not the best move IMO, but not a disaster either.  Not futzing about with installer options prolly means this tied up marketing more than the developers, which is a good thing.
2016/02/24 09:33:02
dcumpian
I solve that by only updating a few times a year. Generally, when word on the forum that an update is particularly solid. Then, it's like Christmas!
 
Dan
2016/02/24 10:31:18
BobF
I set CCC options to verbose and was given the option to uncheck LANDR.  I didn't.  I let LANDR install.
 
However, when I tried to upload a track it failed twice after getting about half way thru.  I'm sure my sub-Mbit uplink speed doesn't help, but I don't have enough free time to waste troubleshooting basic files xfer via the internet stuff.
 
 
2016/02/24 13:21:41
rtucker55
I just finished speaking with the Cakewalk Support guy.
 
-It is safe to uninstall Landr, you can actually do the uninstall from windows control panel/programs and features. At this point it should not re-install itself unless you tell it to in C3.
 
-You can de-select the Landr install if you have the 'Verbose' box checked in C3 or if you download the update from your account and do a manual install.
 
After checking we found that my C3 settings had been changed with the last C3 update hence the reason I was given no choice not to install Landr.
 
It appears my initial assumptions were wrong and I apologize for any stir I may have created.
I am Very Thankful for the Cakewalk Support Team as they are worth the entry fee alone!
 
Kind regards,
Rick
2016/02/24 13:27:14
MGC59
I am never interested in an add on that will eventually cost me money or will go out the network. Trial software is not a feature. It is a commercial. I don't pay for commercials. 
 
I fully agree with Dcumpian, I don't upgrade anymore until the forum has given it a full blessing.
 
I will remain open minded about the subscription/membership/update setup, but so far I'm not real excited about this new direction. 
 
All I ask for is a solid product that does what it is supposed to do and is stable. The bells and whistles should be separate, optional and with no strings attached whatsoever. 
 
No Gobbler/LANDR garbage.
2016/02/24 13:32:25
scook
rtucker55
-It is safe to uninstall Landr

I believe it will still show up as an export option and in the utility menu. If you don't want to see those, I think it is possible to remove them either by directly editing the registry or deleting the "LANDR Master" entry in the Cakewalk External Audio Encoder Setup utility.
2016/02/24 13:34:04
Mesh
....or just don't click on it?
2016/02/24 14:33:56
stevec
Mesh
....or just don't click on it?


 
Right...   like that's possible, just knowing it's there...     
 
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