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2012/09/19 09:14:26
The Maillard Reaction

Every time I stretch a clip I bounce to clip almost immediately after wards. Sometimes I immediately follow that by turning it int a Groove clip (again).

It seems like things act more streamlined and predictable that way.

best regards,
mike
2012/09/19 09:25:00
daveny5

As LJB said above, the only time you just the multiple processing audio files message is when you have time stretched clips.



That's not true, Noel. I've never use time stretched clips and when I File-Export my projects, it goes through multiple iterations of Processing Audio before it does the actual mix.  I do have one or two tracks with V-Vocal clips on them. This is where it crashes most of the time. 
2012/09/19 12:34:18
SONARtist
Friendly people !

Your answers have got me thinking that I may be doing something wrong, but to mix down I do NOT use "export", but "bounce to tracks", choosing just the Master as output.  This gives me a new (single) stereo track of the mix, which I can then either throw away or keep as archive, export, or even further MASTER using tools etc.

But I generally only export when I have a finished product.  Is this wrong ?  Thx (sorry for the hijack)
2012/09/19 12:59:19
konradh
Not only is it unnecessary to freeze tracks, it is even unnecessary to record all the input.  With external synths that have MIDI data in the project, I can select to include live input when exporting and the sounds from the external synths get included.  (For finished products, of course, I record the synths so I will have the tracks if the synths ever stop working.)   Naturally, you can't fast bounce this way.

When I freeze a synth track, I usually freeze the synth itself in the browser rather than the track. 
 
Whether frozen or not, live input or not, my export seldom takes more than the length of the song plus a minute or so—and this is with 60+ tracks.  I hope the other suggestions help.
2012/09/19 13:17:12
musicroom
I never see this type of thing and I export all the time. I use the same method CJ mentioned...
2012/09/19 13:48:45
Guitarhacker
SONARtist


Friendly people !

Your answers have got me thinking that I may be doing something wrong, but to mix down I do NOT use "export", but "bounce to tracks", choosing just the Master as output.  This gives me a new (single) stereo track of the mix, which I can then either throw away or keep as archive, export, or even further MASTER using tools etc.

But I generally only export when I have a finished product.  Is this wrong ?  Thx (sorry for the hijack)

I use EXPORT after selecting ALL the tracks and then use the WHAT YOU HEAR preset (which is available in most cake products)... this gives me an exact replica of the project I have been working on with all FX and envelopes applied. 


It's easy enough to delete it if I have a new version tomorrow.... but yeah.. that's how I do it. 
2012/09/19 14:01:23
timidi
I never use export.
I always bounce to track. That way, I have the mix in the project.
Then, to get it outside of Sonar for whatever, I just drag it out to where I want it (drag takes like 2 seconds).
2012/09/19 14:05:40
LJB
+1 on that. It keeps it all nicely together and is quicker by at least 5 seconds!
2012/09/19 22:58:43
Teds_Studio
OK....I thought that soft synths needed froze once you had them the way you wanted them...my first mistake.  I did mess around with audio snap on a couple of the tracks (experimenting to seeing just how cool the feature is) ...my second mistake, or at least explains why I'm getting the "processing audio data".

Up until I purchased X1 back last winter, I had never had any experience with soft synths.  I've always just used my hardware synths and drum modules.

Thanks for all the help and info guys.  This really eases my mind knowing it was indeed something that I was doing wrong.  And it REALLY helps knowing what that is...!
2012/09/19 23:04:00
Teds_Studio
BTW....what is the reason for freezing if you need to unfreeze before mixing down?  Is it to free up processing power of the DAW?  I have a fairly powerful PC especially for doing audio....it works fine for working on HD video which I also do on this same PC, so I would think it would handle audio with ease.

So if I understand this right...I really have no need to freeze anything unless my PC is getting bogged down?


edited to fix typo
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