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2012/12/13 09:38:05
Bristol_Jonesey
Like I said in post #2 - there are certain events that occur which do NOT get written in the Event List - Tempo Changes & Meter/Key changes are the 2 obvious ones that I can think of.

There might be more
2012/12/13 20:26:11
jimkleban
Bristol, I heard you the first time. I need to assume that way to check lane automation data would be to check each track and buss to see if it has an envelope bar... if no bar, I assume there can be no automation.  Perhaps I am incorrect in this assumption.  If so, how would one check data on the lanes.... meter changes, tempo changes and or set points(or markers whatever they are called) are all null past the last musci data (audio or MIDI) on my projects that don't stop.

Jim

2012/12/13 21:12:12
Beagle
I think it would be SO helpful if we had an "END MARKER" that we could place at the end of the project and then sonar would ignore anything beyond that marker until we moved it.
2012/12/14 01:14:52
dan le
Noel, so much debate on this topic.  And this topic came up several times before

Isn't it simple just to implement a stop at the end of a project, or region like in PT HD?

I can't imagine how hard that would be?

sincerely

dan le




2012/12/14 01:15:52
deved.com
I absolutely love Beagle's idea.
2012/12/14 03:45:09
Bristol_Jonesey
I wholeheartedly agree.


2012/12/14 07:20:09
guitartrek
Beagle


I think it would be SO helpful if we had an "END MARKER" that we could place at the end of the project and then sonar would ignore anything beyond that marker until we moved it.

Absolutely.  How about a Beginning Marker too?  My projects always start on Bar 2 but sometimes I have lead-in notes, so I leave bar one for that and any midi initialization that needs to occur.
 
I just like to export and NOT have to manually select the range every time.  The export takes long enough and if I accidentally chopped off a reverb tail (because you can't see the reverb tail) I've just wasted time doing the export.  If we could define the beginning and end points we can make that export exactly how we want.
 
2013/05/13 13:08:23
Quickdraw
Way late to the game, but experience this problem occasionally.  As to the OP's post... I'm going out on a limb here, but in X2 this is a matter of simply selecting "Options" above the track view and selecting "Stop at end of Project".  if it doesnt stop where you believe it should (extending reverb tails, removing excess track data... whatever) then adjust your length.  I think this is the easiest solution if I understand the CRUX of his issue. 


I would have never posted this (being an old post) but I hate it when I ask for help, only to be reminded to Search for it... then find threads like this, that really seem to never get to the easy answer.

Tom
2015/12/17 20:58:06
gwhlevy
I'm running Sonar Artist, and I had the same issue with Sonar not stopping at the end of a track.
 
I called Cakewalk Support directly and got this Fix for the problem. 
 
The Fix:
In the Track View Pane choose Options (located along the top of the frame around the track) A dialog box will open. Go to the bottom of that dialog box and check "Stop at Project End", click outside of the box to dismiss it. This will save the setting. (And it will stay checked from project to project.)
 
I suggested to the person I spoke with that this should be checked by default. Users of older versions of Sonar and other versions expect "Stop at Project End" to be the default behavior.  That way a user could uncheck "Stop at Project End" if they wanted the playback to continue past the track.
 
This works great in Artist, I don't know about the Sonar Platinum or Professional versions. I assume the dialog box would be in the same location.
2015/12/17 23:29:00
rabeach
Sepheritoh
I am on X2 (64bit). Under certain circumstances, Sonar will not stop at the end of the project and continue to play for another 4 or 5 minutes. This is an irritating bug, and a search on this forum has once again confirmed that it is a know bug for a long time and has been reported to Cakewalk many times. The fact that Cakewalk is not interested in fixing it has caused them, and me serious business. I checked my option stop at project end is ticked and there are no midi events or automation events after the real project end.
 
And now for the long and winded story. Names places and story details have been changed to protect the innocent.
 
I have been bugging a big time engineer friend with a big time studio (and a wall full of gold disks) a long time to throw some work my way, which he has kindly done. I've done some orchestrations for some of his projects. Most of the time pretty successfully. Well, Mr big-time-engineer uses that other big-time-DAW that some people consider the industry standard. Needless to repeat I use this non-industry-standard DAW called Sonar. Mr-big-time engineer has this big-time-client who wanted some orchestrations done, so Mr-big-time-engineer threw the bone my way, who did this most beautifully job. The whole job was done in Notion 4 (another not-so-industry-standard-I-know) and Sonar and rendered down to a big wav. After a night-through-no-sleep session I am done. With pride in my step I walked into Mr-big-time-engineer's studio, with the big-time-client anxiously waiting on Mr-big-time-engineer's leather sofa in the back of the studio. I handed the CD to Mr-big-time-engineer, who duly pop in said CD into computer and copied the wav file into the project for listening pleasure of  the big-time-client, casually questioning me "Why is the file 5 and a half minutes. The song is only 3". Feeling a little confused I had no answer to offer, which was OK then, as Mr-big-time-engineer started playing the song for the big-time-cient, who giggled of pleasure upon hearing the results. The big-time-cient immediately demanded a copy of song on CD to play for the producer, sponsor, friend, mother, and any other random persons he would convince to listen to it. Mr-big-time-engineer duly complied to request and burned project to CD. Upon investigating CD before handing it to the big-time-client Mr-big-time-engineer suddenly let go of one load and ugly swearword. "This song is 5 and a half minutes. What is wrong here" or something similar with a few extra F words. Then Mr-big-time-engineer looked at me and asked THE question: "Eric, are you still using that ......... software? If I remember right this has been a problem with Sonar for a long time. When are you going to move over to a professinal DAW?"
 
OK, needles to say, Mr-big-time-engineer had to save the day by burning another CD and the big-time-client could not stop laughing. Finally commenting something like "If you want to play with the pros you have to start playing like a pro" before leaving.
 
Needless to say I felt like a total donkey and probably lost out on a big break. Mr-big-time-engineer has many other orchestrators to call upon. I embarred him in from of a client, something that will not be mentioned again, but remembered forever. The big-time-client will probably never ask for my services again. At the end of this story I die in a gutter, a forgotten genius artist with no penny to spare.
 
Cakewalk. When are you planning to solve this problem?

your big-time-engineer appears to suffer from histrionic personality disorder. 
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