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2012/09/18 01:07:24
Chris Grant
Hi everyone,
I've been searching around on the net, youtube ect but there isn't a whole lot of info around about how to apply vocal effects, guitar effects ect for sonar LE.
So I thought I may as well ask around here.
So my first question is what are some nice vocal effects to use that come standard on Sonar LE? (keep in mind I only know how to select an effect but I don't really know how to manipulate it i.e. change it or how to use it)
How do you apply a distortion, sort of like an electric guitar effect?
I tried to use a compressor/gate for my voice but I didn't really sound much different when I applied (mainly due to me not knowing what I'm doing).

Here is sample song of what I'm actually singing/playing guitar :http://soundcloud.com/chr...he-pie-man-chris-grant
(also if you think of anything my voice/guitar effects wise please let me know)

Cheers, Chris.
 
2012/09/18 01:20:44
57Gregy
When you right-click in an audio track's effects (FX) bin, what effects are listed?
2012/09/18 01:57:58
Chris Grant
57Gregy


When you right-click in an audio track's effects (FX) bin, what effects are listed?

Here is an image of my FX:



EDIT: I'm also having trouble when recording guitar, it has a little bit of delay (enough to warrant it being very annoying)
I use the M-Audio Fast Track USB interface.
2012/09/18 11:17:48
Akito
Click on the "Cakewalk" tab and you'll find a vast number of useful effects for vocals, guitar, and more. Just click on the effect's name and adjust it to your liking. In addition, you can find a lot of useful VST effects on the internet.
2012/09/18 11:21:18
57Gregy
That list at the top are effects that were already on the computer and probably don't do anything, except the Sonitusfx Equalizer. That came with SONAR LE. You can probably remove the rest from the Cakewalk Plug-in Manager.
The ones you'll use are in the Cakewalk folder. What's in there?
Here is a very, very basic explanation of audio effects and what they do, but the best way to learn about them is to try them out. And check out the Cakewalk Techniques forum, too.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_effects
 
 
2012/09/18 11:25:09
Chris Grant
  Would anyone know why I have delay when recording using Sonar LE. I use an M-Audio I'll record a basic guitar track, then I'll record on another track trying to play in time with the first guitar, it sounds fine while recording but when I finished recording it's off. I've tried increasing the buffer size to faster but it didn't seem to improve it by much. Also I'm fairly certain this is sonar issue as I don't have this problem using Mixcraft 6.0. Chris.
2012/09/18 11:31:53
Chris Grant
57Gregy


That list at the top are effects that were already on the computer and probably don't do anything, except the Sonitusfx Equalizer. That came with SONAR LE. You can probably remove the rest from the Cakewalk Plug-in Manager.
The ones you'll use are in the Cakewalk folder. What's in there?
Here is a very, very basic explanation of audio effects and what they do, but the best way to learn about them is to try them out. And check out the Cakewalk Techniques forum, too.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_effects
 
 

Thanks for the help greg, all of this is stuff I didn't know so it's all very usefull, I'll have a look at that wiki.
I'm on my macbook atm but I'll post back tomorrow with what FX I have in cakewalk.


I find the interface very confusing though compared to using Garageband. 
I've also had far more problems with Sonar than GB but that could be due to the fact that I'm fairly amateur with sonar LE.
Is it worth sticking it out with Sonar LE? Or do you think I should give something else a crack.
I downloaded the trial for Mixcracft 6.0 today and it seemed to work a treat so I'll be seeing how it performed in comparison to Sonar LE 8.5




2012/09/18 11:33:08
57Gregy
The sampling rate and bit depth in SONAR and the M-Audio have to match. I believe SONAR defaults to 44,100 Hz @ 16-bit. Check the M-Audio's settings and make sure they are the same as SONAR. Or change SONAR's settings to match the Fast Track's.
Make sure you have the latest drivers for the Fast Track for your operating system. You can find those at the M-Audio web site.
Use the ASIO driver mode, too.
2012/09/18 11:42:28
Chris Grant
Ok I"ll look into that,
I know ASIO Driver mode doesn't work for me as I already tried it.
It's currently on MME (32 bit I think).
I was starting to think I had to buy a new soundcard for my pc, but that was half the reason I bought the M-Audio fast track interface because I thought it didn't run off the soundcard?
Any way I'll try and match the settings if I find them.

Chris.

2012/09/18 12:10:43
57Gregy
In SONAR LE before X1 LE, you'll find the audio settings under Options>Audio.
In X1 LE, you'll find the same settings by clicking P (preferences) on the computer keyboard.
ASIO may not work now if you didn't download and install the latest driver updates. M-Audio's drivers are usually pretty good.
If you've ever used the generic ASIO4All driver, you need to remove that from the computer before installing M-Audio's ASIO driver.
MME is the oldest, slowest, least-efficient driver there is. You were using that when you had the USB mic? Sorry if I'm confusing you with someone else.
By the way, what's your operating system and is it a 32-bit or 64-bit OS?
 
I've never used anything but Cakewalk software, so I can't say whether something else is better or on par with SONAR. It works for me.
My music computer is running Windows XP SP 3 32-bit.
I've read here that SONAR is a little more complex to set up than other DAWs (Digital Audio Workstation) by others who have tried them.
 
You don't need another sound card; the Fast Track will be your new sound card once everything is sorted out.
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