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2012/09/17 18:27:16
chrisharbin
Didn't read everything, so sorry if it's been brought up. I used to to ATHm50's, but I discovered the KRK8400s feel better with them. ymmv
2012/09/17 18:28:35
chrisharbin
  oh bugger, I should have read further!
2012/09/17 19:19:53
LANEY
jwh


Anyone using KRK KNS 8400 Phones, I've heard these are good, also Shure SRH 840 Phones
any thoughts on these ?

Thanks
John

I have a pair of Shure SRH 840 and they are very comfortable. I have mixed many radio commercials on them and the companies were more than happy and have double my workload.  Was it the cans? Don't know, but I can wear them longer than any other headphones I have tried and still get great results and less fatigue.
2012/09/17 19:32:58
Danny Danzi
bitflipper


You're not alone, Beepster. I use HD280's, too. But for tracking, not mixing. Great isolation for monitoring while singing. But too bass-light for mixing.

LOL bit...I remember you and I having this conversation before. I so wish you lived closer to me to try mine. They are really low end heavy. Other than what I think is a 50 Hz bass boost, I love the way they handle highs and mids. They must have changed them since you bought yours and added more lows or something. I have a little Sonitus eq saved for when I do have to mix with these and it's really helped a lot to where I was surprised to hear what my mixes sounded like on real monitors after. :)
 
-Danny
2012/09/17 19:36:13
Danny Danzi
CJaysMusic


I use the old AKG - K240's and to me, they represent the actual sound. These phones do not hype anything. I love checking my mixes with them. I hope they never break, as i think they are discontinued.

CJ

Hahaha CJ...it looks as though you and I are the only ones that love these things. I'm glad I'm not crazy and you feel the same about them. They could use just a little more low end in them, but the cool thing with them is, as soon as you use too much low end, they let you know about it. LOL! I want to try the ones that replaced them. I've not had a chance to check them out yet, but my friends that have them claim they are even better. I keep forgetting to buy a set or borrow a set to see for sure. Like you, I hope mine never break either. I bought 3 sets though, so I have 2 for back-up that are still in the box. I never let clients use them...they are MINE! :)
 
-Danny
2012/09/17 20:37:22
Beepster
@Danny... From what I've read the current version of the HD280s are updated from earlier versions and supposedly have a better bass response than the originals. I saw the early reviews and almost didn't buy them because of that. I've never used the older versions though so I can't really say if there is any difference. Like I said they seem to match up well to what my monitors are cranking out... even in the bottom end department. Still sounds like the MT50s might be a little better for mixing though so I'm keeping them on my to buy list. Hope all is well in Danziland. :-)
2012/09/17 21:01:59
jbow
I use the old AKG - K240's and to me, they represent the actual sound.



+1


I have been wondering about the M50s because of the rave reviews but I also wonder how the new KRK phones are. The frequency response is: 5hz to 23khz. Has anyone tried them? http://www.krksys.com/krk-headphones/kns-8400.html They look good and are priced 10 dollars under the M50s.

J




2012/09/17 21:04:58
jbow
Didn't read everything, so sorry if it's been brought up. I used to to ATHm50's, but I discovered the KRK8400s feel better with them. ymmv



So you like the 8400s better. Is the low end there? Do they color the sound much?


Thanks!


J
2012/09/17 21:55:45
M_Glenn_M

+1 on these, tho I do think different ears hear different freq's.
Earphones do give a false sense of separation for sure but some of us live with others in the house.
Variety is best.
Sennheiser HD 280 Pro's.
Bristol_Jonesey


I like the HD280's from Sennheiser, they're nowhere near as bright as my other set, HD25's




2012/09/17 23:17:16
sharke
cclarry




I also just recently paired my ATH-50's with a Focusrite VRM Box. It's revolutionizing the mixing process for me and I think your headphone mixes will improve 500% by using one. 



So I picked up the Focusrite VRM today for $79...and I must say it's a pretty impressive 
little box.....quite a wide variety of monitors and 3 different "atmospheres"
to listen in...(VRM stands for Virtual Reference Monitors, in case you didn't know)

The Yamaha NS10, which they call the Japanese White Classic,  a standard in most Studios...
KRK Rokit6 G2
Auratone 5C
An American Passive and British Studio, not sure what these are supposed to be...
Genelec 1031A
KRK VXT 8
Adams S2.5A
Rogers LS3-5A
Stirling LS3-5A 

Some British Hi Fi speakers, both 80's and 90's, computer desktop speakers, micro bookshelf system, and 26" Flat Screen speakers.

It will definitely help with my mixes, that much is for sure...sound quality is quite simply "stunning"

It's like owning an assortment of high and low end monitors, having them hooked to your DAW, and being able to turn a switch to listen to your mix on each set...and compare how your mix sounds on each - that's a pretty good "reference" source if you ask me...dynamic range is 108db - that's pretty darn good too....
It connects via ASIO USB or S/PDIF (which is what I'm using, as the ASIO is limited to 48K, and I record in 96K)
Of course, as sharke says, it's not the same as actually listening to the REAL speakers, but it is a darn good substitute for spending about 5 grand on monitors to "compare" your mix in....especially when your working for peanuts in the first place...

Just thought I throw my 2 cents in...

And it certainly beats endlessly burning CD's to check your mix on different systems. I only wish it had a "car" simulation. 
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