Beepster


@Danny... From what I've read the current version of the HD280s are updated from earlier versions and supposedly have a better bass response than the originals. I saw the early reviews and almost didn't buy them because of that. I've never used the older versions though so I can't really say if there is any difference. Like I said they seem to match up well to what my monitors are cranking out... even in the bottom end department. Still sounds like the MT50s might be a little better for mixing though so I'm keeping them on my to buy list. Hope all is well in Danziland. :-)

Yeah Beeps, the new ones match up well to what my monitors crank out also. The problem is...they sound like my monitors without ARC so they are bass heavy for me. I've heard good things about the MT50's but have never used them believe it or not. My studios have 7506's for all our rooms, the HD280's for vocals and acoustic instruments to keep out the bleed and I keep my 240's to myself. LOL!
 
Things are well here, thanks, busy as usual....hope all is well on your end also. :)
 
-Danny

@Danny... Slow but steady here, man. I think I'm finally out of the testing phase and now neck deep in trying to make it all do something useful. Glad you brought up that ARC software again. That would probably be a far better use of any cash that might have gone towards another set of headphones. Won't do much good until I move anyway though because I don't have a consistent set up right now. I have to stack my monitors on the desk at the end of the night so unless I tape off specific spots to place them at the start of a session I'd spend more time running ARC than actually making tunes. At least I don't have to completely tear them down and stick them in my gear closet anymore. Man was that ever a huge hassle. Cheers, dude.

M_Glenn_M


tho I do think different ears hear different freq's.

 

That is really the problem with recomending headphones or any speakers for that matter.  Also, we hear differnently depending on the time of day or what kind of day we had.  Our health,  of course.  Our hearing  even changes from day to day.  And certainly from year to year.  Our hearing is very dynamic. 
 
Having said that,   I use the sennheiser hd 280 pros.  They do sound really good for the price.  Though I thought the hd 380 sounded better.  to my ears at least.  I wish I would have bought those instead. But oh well. 
 
The best thing is to mix to a variety of speakers and headphones.  And take lots of listening breaks.  And have reference songs of mixes that sound like what you are after.  I always figure if it sounds good to me across a variety of headphones and speakers,  then its ready to send off to mastering. 

 

I have the M50's and the shure 840 , the 840's are more neutral .
Much better for checking mixes ,especially in the low frequencies .

  what is wrong with quoting in this forum btw?? Don't remember this problem in the past....... @jbow: No. You'll not get the "fat" low end. That is the point. They are not hyped, they are a reasonably accurate representation. Don't get me wrong, athm50's are good. I just like a) the way these sound and b) the way they feel. They fit better on my head/ears than the athm50's as well.

Here are some opinions about mixing with headphones.

For me, headphones are an ESSENTIAL part of the mixing process. Before I start mixing, I listen to each track individually (soloed) on phones. Often I'll catch something like really low-level mic handling noise or hiss that cuts in during a punch that I would never hear on speakers.

Also, it's important to consider the playback medium. More and more people are listening on earbuds and headphones these days, so you have to at least reference to headphones as much as you do to speakers, if not more. 

It is entirely possible to make mixes on headphones that translate over any system. I was shocked when I was doing some video editing in Europe and all I had for monitoring was a set of Monster Turbine Copper earbuds. I did the mixes behind the video, fully expecting to tweak them considerably when I got back home. I put them up on the speakers, and didn't have to change a thing.

Speaker of airplanes - I never mix or master within 48 hours of being on a plane. I always end up having to redo them, so it's not worth it.

ATH-M50s are great in the bang for the buck category, probably the best out there at that price point. I also have a set of Beatz (don't laugh) for monitoring the lows, as most headphones are bass shy. I like Sony phones for DJing because the mids cut, which can really help with high ambient noise, but I never really warmed to them for mixing. AKG makes some great phones, they have the "airy highs" thing nailed. Ultrasones are fun for listening, but I've never been able to do mixes that translated well with them.

best bang for the buck I've found yet are Beyer DT880pro. 

no fatigue, well built (I mix on them everyday, and they look/sound like new), 

Make sure you get open-back headphones for mixing, they sound less "canny" than closed ones (i.e. Sony MDR-7509/7506). 

I have 3 pairs of MDR7506, and there is only one pair (the most beaten one), that I trust for mixing, they really don't sound the same one another. 

but if you have the money, I would check out Sennheiser HD600/HD650. 

Cheers ! 

V

It's amazing the difference, to read a thread about mixing on headphones on this forum as opposed to, say, Gearslutz. 

If this were Gearslutz, you'd have 50 replies in succession that said "I would NEVER mix on headphones. Under ANY circumstances. It's COMPLETELY pointless. Your mixes are going to sound like CRAP."

  Ummmm, You should never mix using headphones. Headphones are used for checking mixes only.


This thread is about what are the flattest repsonce headphones, then it got hijacked to mixing with phones. Most know that phones are used for checking mixes and not mixing mixes. 
 

I have 3 of these, all high impedance, and they are pure gold.  Going from them to speakers makes mixing pure pleasure.  I sure wish that AKG still made these as they are comfortable to wear for long periods.  I'm constantly checking e-bay and craig's list for these.

Danny Danzi

CJaysMusic


I use the old AKG - K240's and to me, they represent the actual sound. These phones do not hype anything. I love checking my mixes with them. I hope they never break, as i think they are discontinued.

CJ

Hahaha CJ...it looks as though you and I are the only ones that love these things. I'm glad I'm not crazy and you feel the same about them. They could use just a little more low end in them, but the cool thing with them is, as soon as you use too much low end, they let you know about it. LOL! I want to try the ones that replaced them. I've not had a chance to check them out yet, but my friends that have them claim they are even better. I keep forgetting to buy a set or borrow a set to see for sure. Like you, I hope mine never break either. I bought 3 sets though, so I have 2 for back-up that are still in the box. I never let clients use them...they are MINE! :)
 
-Danny