Ok, I'm still a midi newbie. I mean, I play the keyboard thing sometimes, but that's a now brainer. It always works as I expect in Sonar.
 
I have a Roland GR-20 guitar midi thingy... when I play through the amp or take the analog outs, the hammer-ons and pulls offs sound as you'd expect. but the midi that gets saved in Sonar doesn't. I don't know why. I'm sure some event is being handled by the GR20 that isn't interpreted the same way in Sonar? not sure.
 
I'm guessing I should poke around in the midi file and look for the events to see where the hammer on happens and why the Roland GR20 synth performs it correctly but the midi output doesn't.
 
Thoughts?
 
I tried playing with sensitivity and stuff, but it doesn't really help me. when I use it through my amp, I like it pretty sensitive 7-8 or so out of 10.
 
I can use it as a bass through Sonar... that's ok. it's when I'm playing speedy bluegrass licks that the gr20 handles it but the midi file doesn't (?) or ... not really sure... the GR20 synth sounds right, but it isn't matched at all by what's coming out of dim pro.

I could never get the midi in the GR-20 to work right with Sonar. I also have the GR-33. It has the same issues and it is even worse. Those old guitar synths have the old fashion midi conectors. For some reason they are a pain and they don't even work right.
 
The new roland GR-55 addresses this issue. It works as a midi controller. It plugs in via USB. Even though it does this the GR-55 won't act as a sound modual. It is a midi controller only.
 
I purchased something called the You Rock Guitar. It can act as a midi controller inside many DAWs. it works great with Sonar. It is a sad thing when a cheap $150.00 midi controller works better then the those old expensive Roland guitar synths. Check out the You Rock Controller
 
http://www.yourockguitar.com/
 
http://www.yourockguitar.com/video/user-videos
 
If by chance you do get it to work right let me know what you did. I tried everything I could think of.

We need a 'play it like the gr20 button' in sonar.

:-)

Looking at the midi... it looks like when I hammer on
the old note keeps ringing and the new one too
since the synth builds in volume over time
all you hear is the first one

Yes for some reason the tracking in Sonar is really bad. This is an issue with the GR-20. It is not a Sonar issue. I got a lot of ghost notes too. Maybe roland came out with a patch or a firmware update. I have not checked in a really long time.

I actually love the ghost notes. It teaches me to play more carefully. I really think it has helped my guitar playing to be aware of how often they happen and to struggle to only let notes I intend ring.

I think this is really a learning curve for me since the Synths do what they are designed to. But I think it would be handy to have a collection of synth settings that are for guitar based midi. I would definitely use it.

http://stabilitynetwork.blob.core.windows.net/sn-blob/20120915_G_JerusalemRidge.mp3

This is a take where the bass is the output of the gr20. I use a staccato string from the strings we got with x2. in the last bit I use a moog sound that demonstrates the lower note holding instead of the hammers.

I also have the GR20 and could not get it to input to MIDI.
I thought it was the cheapo midi interface so I took it back and gave up.
Sorry to hear it's a lost cause.

I used to have a GR33 but now have an ax-50.

Roland could never create midi that could be played on another synth.

If you record the midi as you play and send it back to the GR33 it will sound exactly like you played it. So your DAW can record the midi correctly but the devices don't respond in the same way. Like the 33 would send out a C but it would be pitch bent up a whole step when it should be just written as a D.

Different synths have different amounts for the amount of bend (I forgot what that's called) so like on a keyboard when you move the pitch wheel all the way up, on some synths that would be 2 half steps and on some it would be 4, 6, 12,24.

The AX stuff puts out midi that can be used on most synths with some adjustments, not perfect but a lot more usable.

So, with the GR20, can we play, say a horn, as an audio track into Sonar and convert to MIDI there?
Then we would be able to change to another horn?

M_Glenn_M


So, with the GR20, can we play, say a horn, as an audio track into Sonar and convert to MIDI there?
Then we would be able to change to another horn?

I guess you could. What's the purpose of it being midi?

I always leave it in midi as long as possible and so you would have the GR20 as the synth the midi track uses to sound.

You need an interface with enough I/0 to leave it plugged in.

Midi is easier to change than audio but audiosnap has brought audio a lot closer to midi.