I think they want to start play before the recording punch in so the artist has a moment to hear the music before beginning the retake and so they know were in the song they are.

I too would love it if move to marker x was a possibility in the options to program a button on a controller in act.

Move to previous and next is a pain for what I want to use it for. If they can make it move to previous or next why can't they easily make it go to marker A through Z. Also an option to come in early by an offset of so many beats / seconds prior to the marker would also solve problems mentioned here and possibly a set of marker presets that we can drop in for various purposes maybe a set for doing overdubs and another for replaying a project that is being remixed using techniques for playing sections of music with various snapshots in a remix fashion similar to how the matrix is being used.

Think of all the creative uses you can always remix music after it is recorded the snap shot is a powerful tool for recording various shifting sounds and if we can compose using snapshots by shifting from one part of the project to the next then we can get very creative in production and plan it out ahead of time like we do with templates to save time.

+1 I do this too!

Loptec

konradh


I think my issue is more with the V-Studio (control surface).  It allows a button to be programmed as Next Marker but not as Previous Marker and there is nothing like the locate buttons on an MCI transport.

Singers are very sensitive.  Go back a few beats too far and they lose their note or feel.  Get too close to the punch point and they aren't ready.  A button that jumps back to the same point everytime would be good.  When working on a console it is less convenient to mouse click around.

All that said, this is not a huge deal.

I always use "On Stop, Rewind to Now Marker" when I record vocals. (..or record anything for that matter) :)

Just hit stop and play to listen to the recording
Or hit stop, undo and record to undo the take and start a new recording from the exact same spot as last time

Howdy bitflipper!!! I used to live in Portland, now down Texas way!!! Haven't traded notes for a while... just wanted to say AMEN to your post!
 
 
bitflipper


I've always gotten around the navigation issue by keeping the Marker View onscreen. Single-click on an entry to jump to that marker. Couldn't be quicker or easier, unless maybe you could assign keyboard shortcuts to each marker (like maybe the numeric keypad).

My biggest gripe is the arbitrary re-assignment of keyboard shortcuts in each new SONAR version. Sure, you can re-bind them but it's a pain. What's the first thing you do when you're organizing a project? Insert markers as it's playing by pressing F11 at critical points. In X2, F11 opens full-screen mode, whatever that means. If I put it back to Insert Marker, I then have to find a suitable replacement for the new function that doesn't conflict with some other existing or changed shortcut. 

I do try to keep it all in perspective, though. We no longer have to wait while the tape rewinds and then scrub to the punch-in point. We no longer have to take copious notes so the session can be set up again the next day. No patch bays to reconfigure, no dials to dial in. No razor-blades. No demagnetizers. Unlimited bounces, pristine signal-to-noise ratios. And the godsend that is Un-Do. All in all, I am very happy with the digital world.

I'd like to have a time line that started before "0" so that when a musician says "let's go to measure 12" both of us can agree that measure 12 is measure 12 without me having to translate with simple arithmetic.

I figure if I can do the simple arithmetic in my head all day long then maybe Cakewalk could figure out how write me a tasty "macro" that just did it automatically on my big bad Intel chip so that I could concentrate on other things, like tweaking my inflection when I say "that was great.... let's do it one more time".

Wouldn't that be nice?


 best regards,
mike

bitflipper


 I do try to keep it all in perspective, though. We no longer have to wait while the tape rewinds and then scrub to the punch-in point. We no longer have to take copious notes so the session can be set up again the next day. No patch bays to reconfigure, no dials to dial in. No razor-blades. No demagnetizers. Unlimited bounces, pristine signal-to-noise ratios. And the godsend that is Un-Do. All in all, I am very happy with the digital world.

As usual Bit, you're perspective is perfect. I came across a box the other day that had a demagnetizer, tape head cleaning supplies and splicing tape. I smiled nostalgically, remembered what they were used for and quickly closed the box back up! There is always room for improvement with Sonar but I would kick and scream all the way back to the world of tape!

i reckon some sort of macro system (CAL 2.0?) could sort out many of these issues

mike_mccue


I'd like to have a time line that started before "0" so that when a musician says "let's go to measure 12" both of us can agree that measure 12 is measure 12 without me having to translate with simple arithmetic.

I figure if I can do the simple arithmetic in my head all day long then maybe Cakewalk could figure out how write me a tasty "macro" that just did it automatically on my big bad Intel chip so that I could concentrate on other things, like tweaking my inflection when I say "that was great.... let's do it one more time".

Wouldn't that be nice?


best regards,
mike

+1.. i hate it when an 8 bar loop is 7 bars long...lol
 
and for a logical rationale, iirc my understanding of those movie types is that its more than just a minor irritation for soundtrack work..

As usual Im lost reading initial probs/requests listed compared to whats available in X1.
I agree with CJ and Dave on the Markers. (After a couple minutes to insert and label the Project as needed, its a 1 button punch the rest of the project)
The nice thing once done is being able to just click on one of the markers from the Control Bar Markers Button, select and your ready to work in that section whether its Punch In/Out recording, slip editing, whatever.

Was also gonna ask if you have tried the "Pitch Shift" plug instead of your speed adjust probs.

With so many products like Auto-Tune, Melodyne and of course Sonar's own V-Vocal; using too many markers are becoming less necessary.