• SONAR
  • Will Sonar Upgrades ever have things useful for a paying studio? (p.9)
2012/09/17 16:09:22
evansmalley
seems reasonable enough to me, Bristol! I'm just lobbying for the easier access to the instant command of- Start again! Do Over! 

When I have people recording, they usually just want to DO AGAIN! I messed up and I know it! try it again. Right away!
For sure, if you're doing it yourself, it can make great sense to have the machine just do it over and over automatically- and that's great. I really just started this thread to address things that in a paying commercial studio, on the clock- as a dedicated, live engineer- some little tweaks that would make Sonar better for THAT situation. As part of an Upgrade in the future. Some of those things may seem unnecessary to a solo artist who has time and patience. 

Still I'd bet that if Sonar included a Locate Preroll Point!- and Do it again! with one button, every time- I bet lots of us messing up musicians would use it! Over and over!

But in the by-the-clock-paying studio, an excellent app and an engineer who can SAVE time and patience- and make everything more responsive to the wants of the artist- who's paying for the time- has the advantage. It's just a suggestion.

2012/09/17 16:40:36
fooman
"On Stop, Rewind To Now Marker" is what you're after isn't it?
I use this feature daily, turning it on and off as needed using a shortcut key.

I have paying clients and use this tiny little feature (that is truly a key feature since added a few versions back) every day of my tracking life, mixing too!

Start playback two measures from solo, guitarist stinks it up, hit stop and mute the stinky clip or undo, and then hit record again. Takes literally 3 seconds to do all that. The guitarist often barely has time to get ready again if I'm on my game haha.

I only use the looping if I'm doing something like group vocals/gang vocals. Or if a musician requests to have multiple passes one after the other of a section.
2012/09/17 17:11:33
evansmalley
yah fooman... that's probably the one of the best ways to use what's available- but it's not what I am looking for. Because I usually want Stop to mean Stop. Locate+Auto-Play (as a latch) plus Auto-Record (as a latch) would be much more precise and would do more exactly what I want, at my command. But still, it's a good suggestion- given what's already available. 

But usually, for me, when I press Stop- I just really want to STOP- bad...
2012/09/17 18:19:40
backwoods
"For sure, if you're doing it yourself, it can make great sense to have the machine just do it over and over automatically- and that's great. I really just started this thread to address things that in a paying commercial studio, on the clock- as a dedicated, live engineer- some little tweaks that would make Sonar better for THAT situation"


It's a worthwhile cause, the things you are arguing for here evansmalley, but in my experience there has been an awful lot of p!ssing around in every "paying commercial studio" I have ever been in. 


If you are familiar and fast with keyboard shortcuts you are going to save maybe 7 seconds a day with your suggestions. If, like me, you are an experienced FPS player you are going to save even less time over the course of a day.


Engineers don't slow down the recording process, musicians do.
2012/09/17 18:40:23
Sylvan
Just for the record, I work in a commercial recording studio, I also own another smaller commercial recording studio, and I work as a national traveling audio engineer for Camp Jams. I have on the clock paying clients both private and corporate.

I do multiple punch-ins in drums, guitars, bass, vocals, etc...

SONAR nails it every time. Whether I punch in "on-the-fly" or set up punch points. As soon as I hit STOP, SONAR rewinds instantly back to the NOW TIME, a fraction of a second to hit CTRL+Z, then RECORD, and we are recording another Punch-In take without the client having to wait.

SONAR does this perfectly so I guess I am not quite understanding what it is you cannot do.

I fly around the project instantly with Markers. I programmed my KeyBindings to use the "," and "." keys to Go To Previous Marker and Go To Next Marker. The "," and "." keys also have the "<" and ">" characters on them, but I don't need to hit SHIFT to change markers.

Most every client I have comments on how fast I work. I am punching new takes before they are ready, they ask me to slow down...ha ha ha.

Help me understand your issue and maybe I will understand better. But at the moment, it works just right for me and my paying commercial studio clients.

By the way, I too am about 90% audio only. I record real drums, real guitars from amps, etc... So SONAR works great for real audio as well as MIDI work. To me, it is the best of both worlds. A fantastic recording tool.
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