• SONAR
  • Pops and click at low latency using GR5 as a standalone but not as a plug?
2012/09/16 13:15:11
Beepster
So this is kind of weird and maybe someone can give me some insight. Last night I decided to play around with GR5 as a standalone (just wanted to check out some more of the effects, amps and most importantly Control Room Pro). I had set my Focusrite Scarlett 18i6 to the 6 ms setting because I have been doing some editing and for obvious reasons it was giving me some latency while playing through GR5. So I set it back down to 1ms (it's lowest setting) which I had used to track within Sonar without any problems (multiple tracks with multiple instances of GR5 AND a Session Drummer track). I started getting some serious pops, clicks and distortion. I set it to 2 ms and all was well with insignificant latency but I'm curious, how could one instance of GR5 with no DAW running cause these problems when multiple instances, audio and MIDI not cause them. It's weird. In all cases I was using the HI setting so that's not the issue. No biggie. Just curious. Hope you are all having a good weekend.
2012/09/16 13:25:38
Beepster
BTW Control Room Pro is really cool. It makes the program soooo much better sounding. No point using the regular cabs by themselves. Looks like TH2s cab features are gonna be a lot better though.
2012/09/16 13:54:06
chuckebaby
have a wireless card beeper? turn it odd in device manager.
2012/09/16 14:00:35
Beepster
@chuck... Nope. I did a bunch of optimization stuff but I have a feeling there is a lot more I could do. I gotta get around to using that latency checker tool at some point and really take a close look at the whole system but I'm gonna wait until I blow up the system. I want to start from scratch with everything I've learned so far but for now things are working well enough for my purposes. Anyway, it's good to see you, Chuck. I haven't seen you posting much lately. Hope everything is well. I might have a track for you to check out soon. Just taking my time to really get my flow going and understand the little doodads and whatnots. It's taking forever but I think it's worthwhile. Cheers.
2012/09/16 14:07:24
scook
GR5 standalone is just not as efficient a host. SONAR is optimized for low latency performance. BTW, I found the CW mailing list link http://www.cakewalk.com/manager.aspx
2012/09/16 14:12:02
Beepster
@scook... Okay, I thought it might be something like that. So essentially Sonar just handles the workload better? That's kind of a drag for live performers. Thanks for the link. I don't know what I was thinking unchecking the newsletter option. Cheers.
2012/09/16 14:16:21
Beepster
Huh, not sure if that worked. After I typed in my email I got this... "You do not currently have any Cakewalk subscriptions, to sign up for Cakewalk news, promotions and product tips please visit http://www.cakewalk.com/newsletter.aspx" I'll figure it out. Cheers, scook.
2012/09/16 14:26:30
scook
That would be my guess. In my case 1 or 2 milliseconds would not make much difference for live performance. Moreover, there might be some tradeoff being made between performance and stability.

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2012/09/16 14:41:23
Beepster
Actually that 2ms setting translates to around 12ms roundtrip. Not sure why those settings are labeled the way they are. At 12ms it's not really enough to notice but I don't think it would work so well on a not so nice system.
2012/09/16 15:14:56
scook
If you talking about a machine with a lesser CPU and memory, I doubt that is going to impact GR5 as much as SONAR. I would imagine the GR5 would work just fine on a single core CPU and much less RAM. GR4 worked great on my old Pentium with 1GB.
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