The e-guitar technology(tubes) is a relict of the last 20th of the last century,
not much has happened in the development of this technology.
Also some of the best mics for recording like the sm 57 or the md 421
were build in the 60th.
I guess that´s why often guitar-player are noticed as technological dinosaurs,
technical lay and at last special as DAW( sequencer) user.
The digital world has till now not delivered much to this technology,
except chip based effects and transistors ( don´t like ). 
Sure the time will come,when the digital world is bringing a revolution to this ,
hope not so soon............

I have a kemper and it rocks as hard as any amp! I am sure it would blow away TH2.

Then it must be real good, because TH2 is just killer diller for me... Im also using a fender supersonic and I have a Line 6 DT-50 hooked up to two 1960a cabs and linked to my HD-500. So I too have hardware to compare with. Thats a sweet setup for me, but for giggles and grins, and very very good software tones I just run TH2 thru my Mackie 824's, and the air that gets pushed around is sweet enough for my tastes in just about any tune Im doing. I guess Im liking sweet and "easy" more and more these days... 

Pragi


Hi,
it´s  good news, that the TH 2 has a really good sound quality 
so that it can be compared to a "real micro-ed" amp.

But imo this would be the first time, that an amp simu 
sounds better .
The harshness, the not distinctive beat in the lower mids and the third dimension
(the room!) have till now been the flaw of amp-simu`s.  

I have great doubts that TH2 is the first simu, that beats 
a real good microphoned amp .
As far as the amp sound itself is meant, it´s possible
just to change the settings and the amp , so that there are a
whole lot of possibilities to make it sound "better".

So I´m really curious about the X2 release .
One of the first things t try is Th2.

Just my 2 cents.

Guess you never played thru an AxeFXII?

TH2 thru my Mackie 824's, and the air that gets pushed around is sweet enough for my tastes in just about any tune Im doing.

 
Exactly how I'm doing it. I really like it!

Axe Fx / Fractal makes some nice sounding stuff Stratty, but many of us cant justify +2k for a guitar processor. And Im sure when the FX III comes out it will sound even better, but it wont be any cheaper... Thats the thing about the TH2. Its gets really nice sounds for $99 bucks... 

mikey


Axe Fx / Fractal makes some nice sounding stuff Stratty, but many of us cant justify +2k for a guitar processor. And Im sure when the FX III comes out it will sound even better, but it wont be any cheaper... Thats the thing about the TH2. Its gets really nice sounds for $99 bucks... 

Not to hijack the thread but The axeFXII replaced my amps,mics, etc. I am only in a studio, don't play out anymore. If I hadn't sold some things I never could have "justified" it either, believe me. But after owning (3+years now) the Standard, then the Ultra and for the last year the AxeFXII I would sell my furniture if I had to do it over. Just sayin'-I just don't get the feel of an amp out of he software stuff. The volume control on the guitar does "not" react like a real amp IMHO (The Axe it does)
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But don't get me wrong-I have already paid for the upgrade and I am looking forward to the THD-I am hoping it surpasses GR4 for me. I love stuff like that. The THD demo I didn't have it very long- and it didn't sound any better to me than GR4.
 
But possibly because the demo is not the same-no argument here-I love all stuff guitars. Been playin" 30 years or so.

LJB


I firmly believe that no amp sim is ever going to quite match a well-mic'd, well-setup guitar amp with a great guitar, great pedals and a great player. But these plugs are damned handy for extra tracks, stuff with lots of FX on it and for saving a bad tone after the fact.

It's funny but I remember simular conversations about analog tape being far better then recording with a computer. Technology advances and things change. Don't get me wrong, I like real amps better too....for now. But I think there may be one day when an amp sim will give an amp a run for it's money.
 
 

One day I feel is soon...

Marcus Curtis

LJB


I firmly believe that no amp sim is ever going to quite match a well-mic'd, well-setup guitar amp with a great guitar, great pedals and a great player. But these plugs are damned handy for extra tracks, stuff with lots of FX on it and for saving a bad tone after the fact.

It's funny but I remember simular conversations about analog tape being far better then recording with a computer. Technology advances and things change. Don't get me wrong, I like real amps better too....for now. But I think there may be one day when an amp sim will give an amp a run for it's money. 
   

That day is here, but I'll leave the thread now.................................................Bye

Hi stratman,
you´re right, I never played an axe fx ii. But
had the kremper amp here, which is unbelievable 
good sounding. But still not as "good" as a good mic-ed
amp.If you are  happy with the axe ii and you have the bucks........
congratulations....This is a personal decision.
To me this is not "good"enough,which is again  personal
decision.Additional I don´t see to spend thousands of bucks for a
simu.It´s just really expensive .
I have the opportunity to record (loud)in my studio.
If I could not have this possibility,I would buy and try an 
axe fx or kremper.
Have a nice day!