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  • Recording Live Drums (p.2)
2012/09/11 13:55:08
Beepster
BTW... recording drums is a PITA. You should try to spend as much time trying things out and reading up on the process before bringing in any clients or whatever. If you have any buddies who play drums bribe them with beer to come over and hammer away on the kit while you wrap your head around how things work. It's a lot harder to fiddle with that kind of thing by yourself... especially if you aren't a drummer.
2012/09/11 21:01:02
bapu
LOL Beeps.

I've yet to meet a drummer who knew how to record drums, if that's what you meant.
2012/09/11 21:31:53
Cactus Music
Don't let anybody discourage you from recording real drums, These guy's round here are in love with those canned drums but me, if I can (sucker) talk a real drummer into playing on my songs I'll go for it.
 It will always sound better,, ( then you go back and replace the drums with samples using audio snap ha ha)
It is a bit of a learning curve but if you bone up on a few good techniques it can be amazingly easy. Keep it simple,
 I'd start with Kick, Snare and 2 matching overheads and see what happens. 
Basicly if the drums sound good in the room, and you place those overheads correctly, all will be good. You really do need the Kick and Snare separate, next would be Hats.  
Adding more mikes just adds more leakage and phase issues.  Yes it is a good idea to have each drum separate, but you will need better equipment and take more time to get it right.
So you could get by with a 4 channel audio interface. 
If you do want the big channel count then grab a Tascam us1800 for $300. They are perfect for recording drums.  Nothing else is even close at that price once you get more than 4 channels.
 
You cannot use 2 interfaces at the same time with ASIO drivers.
2012/09/11 21:36:54
Beepster
@bapu... oof, don't get me started on drummers. I've only had the pleasure of working with one competent, sane and reliable drummer in my whole 20 years of playing. And just like having the hottest girlfriend in the bar everyone is always trying to steal them away from you. :-/
2012/09/11 21:37:15
bapu
Cactus Music


if I can (sucker) talk a real drummer into playing on my songs I go for it. It will always sound better,, ( then you go back and replace them..... ha ha) 
Exactly what I did on two CHB songs. I happen to use drumagog.
2012/09/11 21:38:24
bapu
Beepster


@bapu... oof, don't get me started on drummers. I've only had the pleasure of working with one competent, sane and reliable drummer in my whole 20 years of playing. And just like having the hottest girlfriend in the bar everyone is always trying to steal them away from you. :-/

So where is this guy? I'd like to meet him.




Oh BTW, I lied. Dave (Quantumeffect) from The CHB knows what he's doing.
2012/09/11 21:40:44
Beepster
HE'S MINE!!! GET OUTTA HERE!!! *swings wildly*
2012/09/11 22:18:37
digi2ns
What mixer are you using?
Im kind of lost on why you cant break it out/down.
Are you doing the drums along with the band at once or doing the drum recording after the fact?
2012/09/11 22:19:01
bluzdog
I'm with Cactus on this one. I love recording live drums. I would go with Kick, Snare, 2-OH's then I would mic up the toms next. Play with placement but be sure to Watch the phase on the OH's and all should be well.

Rocky
2012/09/11 22:27:27
digi2ns
+1 bluz

What mic's are ya looking at using BMOG?

I use
Audix I5 on snare
AKG D112 on kick and floor toms
2-C02's for overheads
and if I want to break out the toms I throw Shure 56's on them

Shouldnt have any probs coming out if your board into your MOTU to achieve what your looking to do I would think, UNLESS you are catching the entire band and bringing in drums on just 2 inputs. If this is the case, re-record the drums after the song is captured then mute/delete the original drum tracks.
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