Could someone please post the features that differ from the two versions.

This is from the cakewalk store.

Key Features:
• Randall®, Brunetti® and THD® authorized modeling, with models approved by original manufacturers
• 4th generation analog emulation technology
• 3D, gapless positioning of microphones
• Advanced cabinet emulations with ReSPiRe 2 technology
• SLR technology allows morphing between two amplifiers
• Advanced preset management
• Easy to build or modify your own signal path
• Revolutionary GUI, host or MIDI real-time control via Smart Controls
• 30 amplifier models (45 channels) with 125 operating modes
• 16 Factory Banks with 135 Sound presets and 634 Variations within those
• 29 Cabinets
• 18 Microphones: you have your choice of Dynamic, Ribbon, and Condenser microphones, with up to four microphones for each cabinet!
• 70 stomp boxes, pedals and rack effects
• Studio Ambience reverb can be added in proportion to the distance of the microphone from the speakers
• Parameters can be synchronized to the host tempo, internal BPM with any time division or millisecond
• Very low CPU usage
• Plug-in or Standalone mode

SONAR X2 Producer customers who upgrade to the Full Version of TH2 will get an additional 20 amp models, 20 cabinets, 15 microphones, plus 60 stomp boxes, pedals and rack effects.

SONAR X2 Essential & Studio customers who upgrade to the Full Version of TH2 will get an additional 20 amp models, 20 cabinets, 15 microphones, plus 70 stomp boxes, pedals and rack effects.
So my guess is this. If you have the studio version of Sonar x2 then the lite version of Th2 has the following. You have no pedal effects but you have 10 amps, 9 cabinets, and 3 mics. If you Have the producer version of X2 then the lite version has 10 pedal effects in addition to everything the studio version has.

I purchased the upgrade after trying the Demo version of the program from overloud.

It seems to come with quite a bit just with Sonar X2. Think I'll wait to upgrade that untill I can check it out.

clintmartin


It seems to come with quite a bit just with Sonar X2. Think I'll wait to upgrade that untill I can check it out.

That is good advice. a lot of people may only use or need the lite version. I purchased mine after checking out the demo and looking at the difference between the lite and full version. It was more of a want than an actual need. Sometimes it is amazing how fast my wants become needs.

The more I read about Overloud (the company) the more I think this may be the best addition to X2. TH2 and Breverb...did they also do the console emulation? I realize the automation upgrades are important, but for a 43 year old guitarist...I want guitar tools more than anything!

As the guitar is my main instrument I got to say that I would agree with your assessment. I think it is one of the best additions to X2. It is far better than Guitar Rig. The distortion amps sound so real. I can also get feed back when I play through it live. It acts just like an amp in every way. That makes the amp models a little better than Pod farm (which is my main guitar amp sim)
 
However this thing also has all the noise a real amp produces too. It could use a noise gate. I am a bit surprised to find no noise gate device in the effects chain. I can use the one I have from Pod Farm. So far this is the only draw back I found. I have been playing with it all day. I like some of the effects in Pod farm better than some of the ones here.
 
I got the best of both worlds with both programs. If I had to do it all over again I would buy the TH2 upgrade. The extra features are well worth the money. The tones I get from this thing sound sweet.

So I'm wondering how much you will be able to use it live with midi Smart tools?

I have a behringer FCB 1010 with a mod chip thats been collecting dust because I just didn't like G Rigs sounds...

To get a simple amp modeler with midi control on the fly is well worth the entrance price if it sounds decent and is not some code monkey nightmare to set up...

The upgrade version will operate outside of Sonar in it's own gui. The license allows you to load it on three computers. I am also looking at live applications.

This is from the manual

TH2 has a very deep MIDI implementation allowing for very powerful MIDI routings with almost any kind of re-mote MIDI Controller, be it a keyboard, a table-top con-troller or a foot-controller.
All MIDI activity is regulated in the MIDI Bindings prefe-rence panel, accessed by clicking Preferences on the lower-right on the main window.
Fig 61 – The MIDI Bindings Preference panel
MIDI Bindings Preset menu
Once you set your MIDI Bindings preferences, you can save the settings to disk using this section. Hit the plus sign and type a name in the dialog window to add a preset; click on the minus sign to remove a preset from the list.
Program Change recalls internal memory
When deselected, all incoming Program Change mes-sages can be routed to other functions in the MIDI Bind-ings panel.
When this preference is activated, if a Program Change is received by TH2 it routed directly to the internal memory system as described below.
MIDI Bank Change
MIDI Bank change is fully supported: you can select all 999 banks, as well as you can switch between Factory and User Banks.
MIDI Program Change
When you look at the Sound panel of TH2, you can see that Sound numbers are displayed in a SS.V format where SS stands for the Sound number (00 to 12) and V stands for the Variation number (1 to 8).
Quite simply this number (leaving out the dot) represents the MIDI Program Change you have to send remotely in order to select that Variation inside TH2.
As an example, if you want to select Variation 2 in Sound 03 (reading 03.2 on TH2 Sound panel), then you will have to send a MIDI Program Change 032.
How to program MIDI events to control TH2
In the MIDI Bindings panel, each entry is shaped as a button in the Learn columns.
Clicking it will put TH2 in Auto-Learn mode: any mea-ningful incoming MIDI message is directly mapped to the parameter linked to that button.

An alternative way of assigning MIDI events is hand-picking the event type in the Event menu and its num-ber in the # field.

We can still get the $99 upgrade price...can't we? I hope that price stays long enough to put it through it's paces.

They stated in the webinar that Overloud did in fact do the console emulation as well.