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2012/09/07 15:01:22
john6448
I was told by Noel to submit feature requests instead of criticising a lack of wanted features, so I looked for a special "Feature Request" area of the forum, and didn't find it, I did a forum search on "feature request" and came up with an assortment of posts that again didn't seem confined to any specific area, so I'll post here and trust that if it should be moved to a more appropriate sub-forum it will be moved.
 
My requests are:
 
1. Easier articulation management. I like what Cubase does with articulation lanes. It is very helpful for orchestral arrangements.
 
2. Easier PRV view editing of velocities. I see videos of other DAWs where it seems quite simple to select, group select, and adjust velocities in the velocity pane (or lane, if you prefer). In Sonar X1 what should be intuitive and easy is not, so far as I can tell. It can be done, but not as simply and straightforward as some other DAWs. This again is a matter of articulation management for me. If I want to use velocity to keyswitch between articulations, this is much needed.
 
I should add, I do not claim to be a pro. I am a hobbyist, and having read some threads over the last few months it seems some don't see a problem with "2" above, pointing out that there are workarounds. In orchestral writing articulation switching is a basic and continuous need in most tracks in every project. Making it simple and easy is pretty doggone important. At least it is to me.
 
If someone can point out how things are easier than I think they are, feel free to do so. When I try to select the vertical velocity lines in the PRV pane, it just doesn't seem to work. If it does work, for me it isn't easy to do.
 
I should say having watched the recent X2 video it looks like there are some very helpful improvements on the way, including automation lanes, improvement in selection and zooming, and grid snapping.
2012/09/07 15:08:52
scook
it is not part of the forum, it is here
http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/FeatureRequest.asp
From the sticky above on how to contact Cakewalk.
2012/09/07 15:20:51
Loptec
john6448
       

If someone can point out how things are easier than I think they are, feel free to do so. When I try to select the vertical velocity lines in the PRV pane, it just doesn't seem to work. If it does work, for me it isn't easy to do. 



it's not possible to grab hold of the verticle velocity lines in Sonar..

what you can do though is to select the notes on which you want to change velocity and then grab hold of the top of one of the notes and drag up or down.

2012/09/07 15:43:01
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
In X2 you can drag with the smart tool in the velocity pane and it will draw over the velocity lines. I can't remember what this did in X1 :) I think you could do the same with the draw tool.
2012/09/07 15:44:05
john6448
Thanks scook, I submitted my feature requests in the appropriate place.
2012/09/07 15:46:03
john6448
Thanks, loptec, yes that is the kind of workaround I was referring to. It should be as easy as lassoing notes directly on the velocity pane, or clicking at the top of a line in that pane. That's my feature request.
2012/09/07 15:47:13
Loptec
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk
]

In X2 you can drag with the smart tool in the velocity pane and it will draw over the velocity lines. I can't remember what this did in X1 :) I think you could do the same with the draw tool.

Alt + left click with the smart tool in X1 to do this.. :)
(looking forward to x2!)
2012/09/07 15:49:37
john6448
Yes, Noel, but what you are drawing is like a continuous controller. What I want to do is select the velocity of individual notes or groups of notes, but only the notes, and move the value. The purpose for me is velocity-based articulation switching. I agree that you are pointing out a way it can be done. My point is that is not the easiest or most optimal way of doing it.

But I hear you, and thanks for your helpful suggestion.
2012/09/07 15:57:52
Loptec
john6448


Thanks, loptec, yes that is the kind of workaround I was referring to. It should be as easy as lassoing notes directly on the velocity pane, or clicking at the top of a line in that pane. That's my feature request.


np :)
it's actually possible to lasso notes in the velocity pane. the downside though is that if you have more than one note in the same place you select all of them by lassoing the velocity there, which maybe isn't what you always want to do.

another way of quickly changing velocity of selected notes is to use the Event Inspector in the toolbar. just select the notes and type in the velocity you want
2012/09/07 16:24:12
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
john6448


Yes, Noel, but what you are drawing is like a continuous controller. What I want to do is select the velocity of individual notes or groups of notes, but only the notes, and move the value. The purpose for me is velocity-based articulation switching. I agree that you are pointing out a way it can be done. My point is that is not the easiest or most optimal way of doing it.

But I hear you, and thanks for your helpful suggestion.

Hi John,


You can select the notes of interest, hover over the top of one of them and then drag when the cursor velocity cursor shows. This should do what you are trying to do. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what you want to do - why is this not easy as you expect? To change  a group of velocities you can either draw them in in the velocity pane or move them relatively by dragging using the cursor. Is there a more efficient method you propose?
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