• SONAR
  • FEATURE REQUESTS *** MOVE AS NEEDED *** (p.3)
2012/09/08 03:19:30
STinGA
I'd love to see a video of how you set that up Bristol_Jonesey.

That seems like a VERY helpful tip!

Every day's a school day.
2012/09/08 03:43:01
Bristol_Jonesey
Can't do videos, but i did write a lengthy essay on how this was all done a while back.

I'll see if I can find it
2012/09/08 06:41:14
musicwriter
Requests??? How about NI Vintage Organs B-3 C-3 M-3,Vox, Farfisa as part of X2 or an add on @ the Cakewalk Store?
 
http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/products/producer/powered-by-kontakt/vintage-organs/?content=1250
 
If this could be made available as part of or as an add on @ the Cakewalk Store, approved as a tested VST install with instructions, it would make X2 complete for me. It seems as if you are going after the guitar crowd (probably many more of them than keyboard players). I miss my B-3, C-3 and leslie, but do not miss hauling it around. After years on the road, MANY years ago, "this" SOUNDS and LOOKS like the most realistic I've seen or heard. Vibrato, ROTARY, key clicks, overdrive distortion, 2nd & 3rd percussion and DRAWBARS which ACT could be utilized on my A-800. You do include some B-3's, but it's as if you are serving Ripple or Sangria when you could have a Merlot, or Bordeaux even at an upcharge (then maybe some surprises are in X2?). I've bought Cakewalk for many years, going back starting with Pre DAW Cakewalk Twelve Tone on an Atari ST1040 upgraded to Cakewalk Professional for Windows 2.0 on a 486 laptop (with many upgrades leading to X1 Prod. Exp.). I do not want to buy third party unless through Cakewalk.
 
By the way, Thanks Cakewalk for the generous DSF Sym.Strings "FREE" offer, but it sounds like a step down from Garritan Personal Orchestra 4 Elite Pack (I am very happy I purchased it as an upgrade) as in comparrison from what I heard in the X2 Webinar. DSF "to me" sounds more like FM, pads or vintage string emulators (which were great for the time to play in a club, but not in the studio), than orchestra instruments. I can hear the difference (I played in many orchestras throughout college with a BM in music education as a woodwind major not string, but I can hear the difference.)  But, who can complain, it's "FREE"! I may think differently once I get it, as DSF has other good products. And many thanks for your software improvements at the upgrade price, I know personally it takes a lot of hours and lots of money as I work with software engineers daily.
2012/09/08 07:44:49
Bristol_Jonesey
I think you might think a bit differently about the DSF SS once you hear them in the proper context.

To my ears, there's not much difference between them and the Garritan offerings which come bundled with Dimension Pro (and both are many light years behind EWQLSO and others of a similar price point), but there's a few good reasons for layering different sample sets in an orchestral setting to add depth/realism.
2012/09/08 08:32:31
STinGA
Bristol_Jonesey


Can't do videos, but i did write a lengthy essay on how this was all done a while back.

I'll see if I can find it
That would be very cool.


Thanks.
2012/09/08 10:25:02
js516
To edit multiple velocities for specific notes simply lasso (or click the 'key' on the virtual keyboard) the notes you want to edit in the Piano view.

With the notes selected, use the smart tool to edit the velocity by positioning the mouse along the top edge of one of the selected note and hold the left mouse button while dragging up or down.

Note that you can select multiple notes by shift lasso, or shift clicking on a virtual piano key.

Basically, you work on the actual notes as velocity is note-base data. Even though you can select the velocities to display/edit in the CC pane, its STILL a CC pane, so it treats velocity as if it's CC data. It's very much 'programmer' logic, coming from a programmer by trade (me). ;)

Having the velocity data shown in the CC pane while you edit the velocities in the note pane is a bit disconnected as you see the values change in a different location of the screen, away from what you are manipulating.
2012/09/08 11:15:51
myconsumerclub
Yes an EWQL LE included in X2 would be awesome. Send the negotiation team on over now. Plus special pricing for all the product line. Make it so.
2012/09/08 11:32:35
g_randybrown
To edit multiple velocities for specific notes simply lasso (or click the 'key' on the virtual keyboard) the notes you want to edit in the Piano view.  With the notes selected, use the smart tool to edit the velocity by positioning the mouse along the top edge of one of the selected note and hold the left mouse button while dragging up or down.


I think this was suggested in a few different ways above and the OP understands the procedure.
If you watch the video he posted in it's entirety you'll see what he means... the velocity auditioning by dragging up and down, the way everything stays in relation to each other in a realistic way(velocity not going down to zero when dragging a group of notes) and the crescendo/decrescendo are very cool indeed!
Not that I would even think about switching to Cubase but that's some pretty cool stuff that I think anyone working in the PRV would appreciate CW integrating.
2012/09/08 11:37:23
Blogman
In the PRV, lasso all the notes (in the PRV or via the Virtual Piano (e.g. transposing Vienna strings but leaving the keyswitch data in tact), place the smart tool at the top of one of the selected notes in the PRV (NOT the velocity pane), you'll see the icon change to A PENCIL with Velocity Icon, CLICK and HOLD, Now Move Up for Louder, Down for Softer. This will change ALL selected note Velocity By the amount up or down.
2012/09/08 21:51:54
Kev999
john6448
  
...Easier PRV view editing of velocities...
In Sonar 6 it was possible to grab the top of a velocity tail and drag it up or down to adjust the height.  I found this useful as an easy way to do fine tweaking of individual note velocities.  I was surprised and annoyed to find that it was no longer possible after upgrading to version 7.  I can't imagine why they removed this feature.
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