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2006/03/27 18:15:54
stratguy
ORIGINAL: HeatherHaze

My only issue is that Gigastudio reports it is incampatible and won't load. I don't use Gigastudio but will eventually and I haven't had time to troubleshoot this. It's on the Giga H/W list.
This sounds like it might be a sampling rate issue. The VM-3100 Pro can only handle 44.1KHz, so you may need to adjust the driver to lock at 44.1KHz before running GS.


Thanks HeatherHaze, I appreciate all the good info and from such a pretty gal ;-) Seriously I feel the same way exactly it has a few short comings but the good points far out weigh the few bad ones. I have dealt with mixers for years and this one has been the hardest one learn by far.

I do have one question if I decided to mix down thru it how may tracks will it mix down from sonar 16 audio and 16 midi? I probably will not use it to mix down due to some of it's limitations but it is killer for tracking.
2006/03/27 23:08:27
HeatherHaze
I do have one question if I decided to mix down thru it how may tracks will it mix down from sonar 16 audio and 16 midi? I probably will not use it to mix down due to some of it's limitations but it is killer for tracking.
With the VM-3100Pro and RPC-1 card you get 8 tracks in and 8 tracks out, all digital audio. You have one MIDI output port to work with so you get the standard 16 tracks (channels). The cool thing about the VM-3100 Pro is you can then mix those 8 audio tracks from your computer with up to 12 additional tracks simultaneously, plus up to 16 MIDI tracks. It gives you a lot of flexibility and control over the signal path (sometimes maybe too much, as it can get really confusing). Add to this the very high level of control afforded by the software control panel...and it boggles the mind.

Anyway, short answer: 8 audio tracks in and out.
2006/03/28 04:02:57
stratguy
Thanks HeatherHaze, that answered my question. I'll have to stick with sonar for mixing because 8 tracks will not be enough. I'll tell you though it's a heck of a good sound card sonar see's it as 4 seperate stereo cards. I very seldom track more than 8 inputs at a time and with digital I can run either the keyboard or guitar if he has digital out on his effects thru the digital input which that way I could track 10 tracks, 5 for drums, 1 for bass, 1 for scratch vocal and 1 for acoustic or electric gtr along with stereo keys in digital. I think that will work for me.

The compressors seem pretty straight forward and should be useful for tracking as well. I have a session coming up soon and I'll let you know how it works out. Thanks again.
2006/03/28 11:53:15
pharohoknaughty
I have the VM-7200. It has 3x8 rpc in and out, 1 SMPTE in and out, and 22 mic/lines. Motorized 100 mm faders. I convert the RPC to ADAT, so I end up with 26 digital channels.
2006/03/28 12:01:05
b3gsus@msn.com
Boy did you come into this post with the heartbreaker rbus setup!!!!! Without doubt, that is plenty of in's & out's for most anyone...Does that Model work at higher rates or is it also limited to 44.1??? Thanks, Wildman
2006/03/28 14:42:52
pharohoknaughty

ORIGINAL: b3gsus@msn.com

Boy did you come into this post with the heartbreaker rbus setup!!!!! Without doubt, that is plenty of in's & out's for most anyone...Does that Model work at higher rates or is it also limited to 44.1??? Thanks, Wildman


It goes to 48, 24 bit. I have eight internal effects(reverbs), 4 way eq and compression on all 48 channels, etc. You can get these cheap on Ebay. I paid about $7,000 years ago.

http://www.supersonica.it/public/Products/Roland/VM7000/Rol_VM7000_PTR2-en.htm
2006/03/28 16:40:03
HeatherHaze
I have the VM-7200. It has 3x8 rpc in and out, 1 SMPTE in and out, and 22 mic/lines. Motorized 100 mm faders. I convert the RPC to ADAT, so I end up with 26 digital channels.
Wow. Thanks for the tip, that is an awesome looking board. I love Roland stuff!!!
2006/03/29 07:03:54
stratguy
Yeah with the 7200 you could definitly go big time very quickly. I would imagine already having a VM mixer the learning curve wouldn't be that bad. I'll start watching ebay. Now HeatherHaze don't you be bidding against me :-)
2006/03/29 12:11:14
lavoll
i have that exact setup.. but nothing useful to add to this discussion :) it works great. I thought i would do more "grabbing the faders to automate mixing" then i do.. but i do all that from the slider on my keyboard most of the time :)
so for me it's a great soundcard with cool effects :) two synths, a mic and a guitar stays patched into it.

.. and it just works.. :)
2006/03/29 15:19:50
HeatherHaze
Now HeatherHaze don't you be bidding against me :-)
I'm not making any promises.
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