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  • Key Change? (p.2)
2012/09/07 13:59:40
Guitarpima
Your still not giving the whole story. If he wants the key to still be in E but make it minor, you'll have to lower the G# as explained as well as the C# and the D# since the key of Emajor has 4 sharps and eminor has 1 sharp, F#. Bear in mind though, some of the D sharps you may want to leave as a D sharp instead of lowering it to a D natural. This is done so whenever you hit a B chord, you can keep the dominant feeling of pushing back to the e. You'll have to trust your ear on which chords to leave the D note sharp or make it a D natural.

If you want the song to retain it's major sound, then you'll have to follow the steps I laid out. If you indeed do want the change the sound of the song to a minor sound,  then follow Samheyman's method with the additional information I gave in this post.
2012/09/07 14:15:30
Loptec
Guitarpima


Your still not giving the whole story. If he wants the key to still be in E but make it minor, you'll have to lower the G# as explained as well as the C# and the D# since the key of Emajor has 4 sharps and eminor has 1 sharp, F#. Bear in mind though, some of the D sharps you may want to leave as a D sharp instead of lowering it to a D natural. This is done so whenever you hit a B chord, you can keep the dominant feeling of pushing back to the e. You'll have to trust your ear on which chords to leave the D note sharp or make it a D natural.

If you want the song to retain it's major sound, then you'll have to follow the steps I laid out. If you indeed do want the change the sound of the song to a minor sound,  then follow Samheyman's method with the additional information I gave in this post.


or you can try my suggestion. I've tried this now and it works great.
and also; since you can save the change as a preset you just have to make the settings once and then insert the plugin and load your preset on the other midi-tracks
2012/09/07 14:18:11
samhayman
I was going for the melodic minor :P

No. Joking aside - was trying to keep it simple but you're absolutely right. 
2012/09/07 14:56:11
STinGA
Wow, too much for a drummer to take in :-) must now go read all again, and inwardly digest.

Thanks all 
2012/09/07 15:49:06
STinGA
Loptec


Guitarpima


Your still not giving the whole story. If he wants the key to still be in E but make it minor, you'll have to lower the G# as explained as well as the C# and the D# since the key of Emajor has 4 sharps and eminor has 1 sharp, F#. Bear in mind though, some of the D sharps you may want to leave as a D sharp instead of lowering it to a D natural. This is done so whenever you hit a B chord, you can keep the dominant feeling of pushing back to the e. You'll have to trust your ear on which chords to leave the D note sharp or make it a D natural.

If you want the song to retain it's major sound, then you'll have to follow the steps I laid out. If you indeed do want the change the sound of the song to a minor sound,  then follow Samheyman's method with the additional information I gave in this post.


or you can try my suggestion. I've tried this now and it works great.
and also; since you can save the change as a preset you just have to make the settings once and then insert the plugin and load your preset on the other midi-tracks


Hmm I'm a little lost.  I quickely tried this method.


So, I open the transpose plugin


Select Custom Map
Go to the right hand side to- from section select C#6  "From"
Go to C#6 in "To" double click and change to C6 


Now, when I go into the"From" section it has also changed to C6, what am I doing wrong?


Sorry I'm feeling a bit daft!


Thanks


2012/09/07 15:56:10
scook
rather than using custom map doesn't the transpose mdx allow you to change key directly?
2012/09/07 16:10:46
Loptec

scook
STinGA


Loptec


Guitarpima


Your still not giving the whole story. If he wants the key to still be in E but make it minor, you'll have to lower the G# as explained as well as the C# and the D# since the key of Emajor has 4 sharps and eminor has 1 sharp, F#. Bear in mind though, some of the D sharps you may want to leave as a D sharp instead of lowering it to a D natural. This is done so whenever you hit a B chord, you can keep the dominant feeling of pushing back to the e. You'll have to trust your ear on which chords to leave the D note sharp or make it a D natural.

If you want the song to retain it's major sound, then you'll have to follow the steps I laid out. If you indeed do want the change the sound of the song to a minor sound,  then follow Samheyman's method with the additional information I gave in this post.


or you can try my suggestion. I've tried this now and it works great.
and also; since you can save the change as a preset you just have to make the settings once and then insert the plugin and load your preset on the other midi-tracks


Hmm I'm a little lost.  I quickely tried this method.


So, I open the transpose plugin


Select Custom Map
Go to the right hand side to- from section select C#6  "From"
Go to C#6 in "To" double click and change to C6 


Now, when I go into the"From" section it has also changed to C6, what am I doing wrong?


Sorry I'm feeling a bit daft!


Thanks


as I said before, today was the first time I tried this plugin..

what I noticed when I did though, was that the "from"- and "to"-notes (on the right) didn't display any # for the sharp notes.. =/

I had to double click them to see their actual state (then they showed as C# and so on as they should)..
it was just a display malfunction though, because it sounded right

maybe there's an easier/better way of using this plugin, as scook suggests, though. I dont' know... :)
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