• SONAR
  • where are all the recording level adjustments?
2010/02/15 20:09:27
Vergor
One thing that does not seem to be easily covered by cakewalk is how to set recording levels in sonar, let's say sonar 8.

The only way I could find to set recording levels in sonar was under console view, their was two active meters, one with a level adjustment option.

are their other places to set recording levels in sonar besides under console view or is this the only place?

Oh and by recording level adjustments I mean, sensitivity/clip, and input levels which directly affect how hot a recording is when it is made
2010/02/15 20:18:06
nprime
You don't set record levels in Sonar.

You set your levels before they get to Sonar. The faders are for adjusting playback level only.
2010/02/15 20:49:17
garrigus
Input levels are set via your audio interface. Most modern interfaces include a software-based application that allows you to control input levels (among other things). If the interface doesn't include an app, then you usually need to set levels via the hardware itself.

Scott

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2010/02/15 21:02:06
19 frets
Not complaining mind you or bashing Sonar, but this seems like a real short coming to me.  I have learned to work around it, but it seems like it would be fairly easy to do and would make controlling things, especially during a live take for example, so much easier than jumping back and forth between the Sonar screens and your interface mixer screen.  Is this something that others would like to see in a future release?  
2010/02/15 21:34:18
Vergor
Thanks, making a jump from hardware based recording devices such as digital portable studios to software based has proved a bit tricky, anyone willing to point out my misunderstandings to me is always appreciated.
2010/02/15 21:42:38
Lay In Wait
One thing that will help is telling us what interface you are using with Sonar. As mentioned above, your interface is were you set recording levels.
2010/02/15 21:55:18
Vergor
Sure, no problem.

I have four I'm testing.

The one that interests me most is my Delta 1010LT for obvious reasons.

However the ASIO driver interface does not seem to control the input levels, I have posted a question to M-Audio concerning this, probably some stupid mistake I'm making.

other sound cards I will be testing are.

Sound Blaster audigy 2zs

Sound Blaster Live

and Realtek ALC662 on board sound card with what says low distortion audio design let SNR over 95db

As I sure you have guessed I want to find the card that will give me the best S/N ratio, I know I could just read the stats, but I would rather use my ears, even though the stats say one thing it does not mean they did not use low end parts on the card which could compromise the overall quality of my recording.
2010/02/15 22:14:51
nprime
From the Delta 1010LT manual:

"Delta 1010LT Control Panel Software - PC
Once the Delta 1010LT is properly installed, an "M Audio Delta H/W" icon will be
displayed in your Windows Control Panel. By double-clicking on that icon, you will
launch the Delta Control Panel software. You may also launch the Delta Control Panel
software from the desktop if you have previously created a shortcut there (see "Verifying
Delta Control Panel Software Installation" section for instructions on how to do this).
Once the Delta Control Panel software has been opened, you will see the main panel and
its several tabs. To display a desired page, click on its tab. Below are functional
descriptions of each page.
NOTE: When using a music software program that is ASIO capable,
launch the Delta Control Panel software from within that program.
There will be a button in the ASIO or Audio setup page that will
allow you to do so. Some of the control panel functions will be
controlled from within that program, such as master clock setting
and sample rate, so it is desirable to launch the music program
first, and then the Delta Control Panel from the the program’s
“launch” or “control panel” button. Without the music program
open however, it is okay to open the Delta panel from your desktop
or other location."


Have you tried this?


2010/02/15 22:18:03
Stone House Studios
19 frets


Not complaining mind you or bashing Sonar, but this seems like a real short coming to me.  I have learned to work around it, but it seems like it would be fairly easy to do and would make controlling things, especially during a live take for example, so much easier than jumping back and forth between the Sonar screens and your interface mixer screen.  Is this something that others would like to see in a future release?  
Not sure what you're after here. Basically, Sonar takes what your audio device makes available, and then puts it into an application that allows you to monitor/edit/record/sync with midi/ etc.
There is a point where you must make quality input available to the application.
 
Brian
2010/02/15 22:33:07
Tom Riggs
Vergor


Sure, no problem.

I have four I'm testing.

The one that interests me most is my Delta 1010LT for obvious reasons.

However the ASIO driver interface does not seem to control the input levels, I have posted a question to M-Audio concerning this, probably some stupid mistake I'm making.

other sound cards I will be testing are.

Sound Blaster audigy 2zs

Sound Blaster Live

and Realtek ALC662 on board sound card with what says low distortion audio design let SNR over 95db

As I sure you have guessed I want to find the card that will give me the best S/N ratio, I know I could just read the stats, but I would rather use my ears, even though the stats say one thing it does not mean they did not use low end parts on the card which could compromise the overall quality of my recording.


I am using a delta 1010 and a delta 66. they both have adjustments to the input levels but they work differently. I'm not sure on the 1010lt but it think it will be similar to the delta 66 I have. Once you launch the Delta panel select the input tab at the top. My Delta 66 has input level options of +4db, Con, and -10db. I have to select the one that works best with the input source without clipping. On my Delta 1010 there are buttons next to each input and output to select between +4 db and -10db it is not controlled by the Delta Panel.

Hope that helps.

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