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2012/09/01 18:04:42
martinv
delete double post
2012/09/01 18:19:32
RobertB
If you have effects in the master bus, you can get around that.
Assuming your tracks are routed through the master bus, selecting that or entire mix will indeed bring those into play.
However, you can create a new bus, with no effects, route your desired tracks to that, and select it as the source.
This will render your tracks into one new dry track, with no additional processing.
I see what you are getting at, and this would seem to be the cleanest solution.
2012/09/01 18:23:58
Jeff Evans
You may be looking in the wrong area such as Bounce to Tracks etc. Try looking into the Export options instead. I just checked the X1 manual (p1501 Export Audio Dialogue) It is Exporting that you really want to do here not bouncing etc..
2012/09/01 20:05:11
RobertB
Jeff, for the purpose of this discussion, Export and Bounce function the same.
Export has additional options for sample rate and bit depth, but the menus are otherwise identical.
From what I can see, these menus are the same for X1 as they are for earlier versions.

Martin, see if this helps:


Here, I have created a bus, and named it Bounce Bus. Its sole purpose is to act as a source for bouncing multiple tracks to a single stereo track. It has nothing to do with the rest of the project, and is just a tool.
I have enabled Wave Preview to see the waveform, but that is not essential.
You can select any combination of tracks, by temporarily setting their outputs to this bus, for your bounce.


Here we see the Bounce menu, with the Bounce Bus selected as the source.
This is the key to getting a single stereo track.


Here, we see the two original mono tracks, the new bounced stereo track, and the bounce bus.
The tracks have been resized to fit the screen, but the signal has been unaltered.
At this point, you would want to archive your original tracks, so they don't continue to play(you may already know this). It looks more complicated than it really is. In real life, it's just a few mouse clicks.
Hope that makes sense and is of some help.
2012/09/01 21:03:44
Jeff Evans
Thanks RobertB. You may be right. In Studio One there are marked differences between Bouncing to Clips, Bouncing in general and Exporting. Interesting though when I Export two mono files all I have to do is select an output and just ensure the mono tracks are panned. Studio One creates a stereo track but while it is doing this it says Mixdown even though I am in the Export area.

But thanks to this discussion I have found out something else as well. In Studio One there are Browser operations as well which are not related to the other bouncing and exporting operations. In the browser I can just select two mono tracks (don't even have to select them on the main edit window, only in the browser itself) and right click and another menu pops up and one of the options is 'Merge to Stereo Track'. This is basically what the OP wants to do. It does it and fast too. No need for busses or anything, just select the two tracks and away you go. (It pans them left and Right if you are wondering and you can only select two mono tracks as well, also they need to have the .L and .R extension to work as in PT split files. However they can easily be renamed and then it works fine)

What I am asking (as I am not familiar with X1) is are there any audio operations you can do once you select audio tracks from within the browser that you may not know about. Maybe X2 might offer some actual browser audio operations if they are not available now in X1. Sometimes you can find out things about your software by investigating other software programs as there is often a chance they have copied the function.
2012/09/01 22:40:42
martinv
In the browser I can just select two mono tracks (don't even have to select them on the main edit window, only in the browser itself) and right click and another menu pops up and one of the options is 'Merge to Stereo Track'. This is basically what the OP wants to do. It does it and fast too. No need for busses or anything, just select the two tracks and away you go.

 
Exactly what I was looking for and didn't find.   Now Roberts method is what I tried earlier today and does seem work fine.  Thanks for the great detailed instructions Robert.  
 
5 clicks isn't much but imagine if your space bar was removed and to hit the play/stop button required a menu, 5 mouse clicks, and not selecting the correct check boxes every time means you have to start over. 
 
I still want the:  Select 2 tracks, right click and select "merge to stereo track" function but will use the SONAR X1 methods for now.
 
2012/09/02 06:07:51
Kev999
martinv

...All of these files are recorded as 2 mono tracks panned left and right.  I want to convert each stereo pair of mono tracks to a single stereo track...
I once took part in a remix contest in which all of the stems provided were mono WAVs representing left and right portions of stereo tracks.  There were several dozen of them in total and I found it very inconvenient.  Requests were made for stereo stems, but we were told that ProTools can only export this way.  Seemed ridiculous to me.
2012/09/06 00:45:03
infoleather
There are always dozens of them, and I find it very inconvenient.
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