• SONAR
  • Record Last Take Question
2012/09/05 04:37:41
asimmd
HI All
 
I was watching something to do with Logic Pro a while back,and I noticed it had a cool feature and I wondered
if Sonar had anything similar.
 
I don't know if the title is correct but if you are playing say a guitar over backings,and played
something fantastic but forgot to press record,no problem.
 
Just select Record Last Take,and magically what you just played is there as if you Had
pressed record.
 
Hope I said that right.
 
Alan
 
2012/09/05 08:28:09
Beagle
no, that makes no sense.  how can any software record something if you didn't record it?
2012/09/05 08:46:27
Tom Riggs
@Beagle I think its possible but not sure of the benefit. I just hit record while I practice and if I do something I like I keep it if not Ctrl-Z rewind and start over.
2012/09/05 08:54:00
asimmd
It is possible,but I could not explain how it's done.

If you doubt it is possible just google - Capture Last Take as Recording
and read the many explanations.

It's not instead of pressing record,it's in case you didn't press record because maybe
you were trying something different,and it worked so well you wish you had done.

Alan
2012/09/05 09:17:35
Guitarhacker
I can see how this would be possible..... since DVR's do this all the time. I work in the closed circuit tv/ security biz and the DVR is essentially recording everything that comes through the cameras but... it drops the data if it doesn't get notice to "keep it" from an event trigger after a certain period of time.  Generally under 60 seconds. This allows us to capture to disk, the time before an event occurs so the action is continuous rather than jumping in to the middle of the event. 

In an audio recorder... there would have to be a time limit too or the hard drive would fill up quickly. It would require a fairly large temporary buffer to hold the various takes.... 

I'm pretty sure Sonar doesn't even come close to being able to do this.  (99.999999%) The closest thing would be the loop recording function.....which I don't use or know much about either...other than I think Sonar has it. 
2012/09/05 09:38:44
Grem
Yes it is possible and I could see this as a benefit. Just as guitarhack says, DVR's do it all the time. Hell my Tivo keeps a 30min buffer all the time. I could see software doing the same thing.

Here's how to do it:

The DAW would always keep a (pre-determined size in MB) buffer from the sound cards input. Press play and it starts to write to the buffer. When you hit stop, the buffer is kept with all the info on it. However, the moment you press play, the buffer is over-written with new info and keeps all info until you press stop or it reaches the size limit. Repeat endlessly.

Select Options/Keep Buffer.

There ya go!

[edit]
Forgot to answer original question!

No Sonar does nothing close to this.

Workaround?
Always keep your trk armed! Always press R!

: )

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2012/09/05 09:54:24
asimmd
Well I'm glad someone else can see it can be done,as for being useful,well

it's one of those features that when you don't have it,it doesn't seem useful,but

when you do have it you wonder how you ever managed without it.

Wonder if it might be put on the wish list for inclusion in the next recipie?

Alan
2012/09/05 09:59:50
Grem
asimmd




Wonder if it might be put on the wish list for inclusion in the next recipie?

Alan

Oh God No!! What problems would that introduce? Fix the problems they have now and stop with the "a ton of added features!!"
2012/09/05 11:02:11
czyky
Cubase has that feature too, so SOMEBODY likes the idea, including you and me. With Cubase, I think the amount of buffer is configurable (how many notes back to save). Since they are only saving midi events, doesn't take up a whole lot of memory.

Would be nice in Sonar. I've tried just having sonar just constantly in record mode while I try things; if I don't like anything, I don't save it. It kind of works, but I think a "backtrack buffer" would be better for creative work flow. Here's hoping for the future.

2012/09/05 14:25:26
Beagle
ok - so it's feasible to be able to be done. 


personally I don't see the benefit.  I can press the record button when I'm ready to record even if I'm wanting to record my practice takes.

plus - it seems like it would waste a lot of disk space with "non-recorded tracks"
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