I already have BFD Eco and I know I can toss the cymbals into the kitpiece slots but that obviously takes up slots I may want for other stuff and I'd really like have access to ALL the cymbals. So I'm thinking I should use Eco DV on top of the full version of Eco. I'm just wondering if anyone has some insights on this. I'd also like to know if I can have both instances of Eco viewable/editable with in the same PRV so it's easier to write. Make sense? Cheers, guys.

Beepster


I already have BFD Eco and I know I can toss the cymbals into the kitpiece slots but that obviously takes up slots I may want for other stuff and I'd really like have access to ALL the cymbals. So I'm thinking I should use Eco DV on top of the full version of Eco. I'm just wondering if anyone has some insights on this. I'd also like to know if I can have both instances of Eco viewable/editable with in the same PRV so it's easier to write. Make sense? Cheers, guys.

Hmmm I'm quite jealous you know.


You can use the percussion slots too for cymbals so you can have 6 in total. 
I'm not sure about Eco but FXpansion don't recommend running 2 instances of BFD2 (or at least they don't support it) but that said I have used two instances without any problems but I didn't really push it to be fair.

When you say "editable from the same prv) you mean one midi track feeding two instances? I think this might be possible by creating a drum map although I imagine it would be time consuming too.

I would try running two instances of either and see how you get on. 

Either that or upgrade to BFD2 ?  

Steve

Right on, twaddle. Gonna have to play around with it to see what's what. I'm too sore to play guitar again tonight anyway so maybe I'll dive into BFD. I'd love to upgrade to BFD2 but I can't swing another $200 and Eco is pretty rockin' as it is. I'm curious... Eco doesn't export MIDI files when using the groove constructor in stand alone. Does BFD2 have an option to export those grooves as MIDI? BTW the Z-Pack is still on sale on AudioMidi's website. If you know anyone in the US who could buy it then ship it to you it's a pretty awesome deal. That's what I had to do. Cheers.

Beepster


Right on, twaddle. Gonna have to play around with it to see what's what. I'm too sore to play guitar again tonight anyway so maybe I'll dive into BFD. I'd love to upgrade to BFD2 but I can't swing another $200 and Eco is pretty rockin' as it is. I'm curious... Eco doesn't export MIDI files when using the groove constructor in stand alone. Does BFD2 have an option to export those grooves as MIDI? BTW the Z-Pack is still on sale on AudioMidi's website. If you know anyone in the US who could buy it then ship it to you it's a pretty awesome deal. That's what I had to do. Cheers.

Yes BFD2 can export and import midi files. You can just drag the grooves on to your desktop to save time if you prefer. Unlike Eco BFD2 has what are called palettes. 
These are a collection of grooves that make up a song and when loaded in to the drum track )lane) can be sellected as one song and dragged on to your desktop or in to sonar.


Although you can't export your midi grooves via Eco you can load them in to the drum track and from there drag them on to your desk top. 
In fact I seem to have discovered a work around to not being able export your midi grooves. I just tried doing the same in Eco as I did in BFD2 and it worked.
As long as you load your grooves in to Ecos drum track (make sure the "TRACK" button is on to do this)  you can arrange them how you like. Once you ready to export them (which you can't do) control select each part so all are highlighted
and then just drag them on to your dektop (or in sonars midi track.
I didn't think you could do it like that but it works for me and I don't see any difference between what I did and the export feature ? 

By the way, I did this in both stand alone and in sonar. 
What Eco can't do and BFD2 can is import any midi drum file.

Steve

@twaddle... Hmm, interesting. I was able to export a WAV of something I put together in the standalone version and load it into Sonar but it's just stereo and I can't edit the hits. I'll mostly be using it as a plugin in Sonar once I wrap my head around all that but I could see being able to write parts in the standalone version as useful... like if I don't want to fire up my big system I could just toss stuff together on my laptop then transfer it over and edit it from there. I'll get BFD2 eventually but it just isn't in the budget right now and Eco is enough to chew on as it is. Looking forward to trying out this Z-Pack with the Rock Legends kit. The kit is awesome and the cymbals that came with it are pretty decent but I think the Z-Pack is gonna blow them out of the water. :-)

FWIW, I haven't noticed any problems using BFD Eco and Eco DV side-by-side.  Not that I've finished a complete song or anything, but they seem to behave OK from my brief tests.  

That's good to know. I'd bet the real problem is BFD draining system resources but my computer is a powerhouse so if that's the issue I'm sure I'll be fine.

fxpansion also have a forum ;-)

Yeah, part of the reason for Eco is to have a more lightweight version.  Which is good for me since my system probably doesn't qualify as a powerhouse (Q9300). 
 

@Fog... Meh. I like you guys better. ;-p