twaddle

I don't know how you do it in EZdrummer but in Eco there is what's called a drum lane/track in to which you can drag the grooves you like and arrange them from there.
To be honest I think it's far better to drag them in to your midi track in sonar anyway. You can arange them how you like just as easily but obviously you can edit them properly too.

If that was the OP question there is no function to chain grooves together in EZ Drummer like there is in Eco but as you say its probably best to drag them into Sonar and work there.
 
I have Toontrack's EZ Player Pro which has this functionality but I never use it , It does however add the ability to drag kit pices in a groove into a track, like you can in Superior Drummer.
 
You are correct that there are no individulal cymbal mikes in EZ Drummer (Or Superior Drummer for that matter) but its not something I have ever missed. I just had a play in Eco and to me the cymbal channels don't sound any different to the overhead channel. Having seperate channels does add to the mixing options though, particulary if you want to put effects on a single cymbal.

But you can't pan your cymbals without panning the room and overheads. You can't have dry cymbals and you cant apply any effects to them?
I quite often use a flanger on the cymbals as well as a delay on choked cymbals. I can't see how I could do that in EZdrummer.

Steve

twaddle


But you can't pan your cymbals without panning the room and overheads. You can't have dry cymbals and you cant apply any effects to them?
I quite often use a flanger on the cymbals as well as a delay on choked cymbals. I can't see how I could do that in EZdrummer.

Steve

You run a separate instance of EZDrummer just for the cymbals.


Rail

Again guys thank you for the input. Hearing what your peers think and feel about software helps loads....

@twaddle: Brotha if I had a million, +1 equipment/software issues wouldnt be, well an issue...lol. And we meet at a bar and rounds on me, so by the end of the night we'd probably start a music house and Id give you more then a few quids... ;)

EQ.....take my advice...get Eco and get the Rock Legend kit free...

Right now ...this IS the deal....

EZD is on sale all the time too..but not like this....

And get this before it's over....

Great value...

http://www.audiomidi.com/Gen16-Digital-Vault-Z-Pack-No-Brainer/dp/B00439GVLQ

cclarry


And get this before it's over....

Great value...

http://www.audiomidi.com/Gen16-Digital-Vault-Z-Pack-No-Brainer/dp/B00439GVLQ

Larry
This isn't downloadable is it? I really wanted this but it seems it's not for us folk in the UK 

Steve

EQ


Again guys thank you for the input. Hearing what your peers think and feel about software helps loads....

@twaddle: Brotha if I had a million, +1 equipment/software issues wouldnt be, well an issue...lol. And we meet at a bar and rounds on me, so by the end of the night we'd probably start a music house and Id give you more then a few quids... ;)

That'll do me just fine.


Steve


+1000 what CClary said.

I still haven't had much time to put Eco to test. I did, however, check out the incredible libraries that Platinum Samples put out for it and Joe Barresi's kit is simply jaw dropping.

Since I didn't want to upgrade to BFD full for the moment, I checked the Eco Kit. The one thing that kept me from grabbing it is the machine gun snare at 18 seconds in the first demo. I suspect this might be due to some limitation in the BFD engine - I didn't hear anything similar in the BFD full version.

http://www.platinumsample...coKits/EvilEcoKit1.php

Maybe someone can shed some light on this...

Otherwise, I've been a fan of EZ and now SD even since I've first tried EZ. Overall, the BFD kits seem to sound more natural. If I were a drummer, I'd probably be inclined to use BFD.

EZ and SD kits seem a bit more "prepared" - not as excessively as Steven Slate's SSD kits, but kinda half-way.

As a songwriter and "aspiring engineer", EZ and SD puts me a few steps further on the way to a good drum sound for the song w/o being as processed as SSD, so I can still polish them a bit and make them work in the song myself.

Rain


I still haven't had much time to put Eco to test. I did, however, check out the incredible libraries that Platinum Samples put out for it and Joe Barresi's kit is simply jaw dropping.

Since I didn't want to upgrade to BFD full for the moment, I checked the Eco Kit. The one thing that kept me from grabbing it is the machine gun snare at 18 seconds in the first demo. I suspect this might be due to some limitation in the BFD engine - I didn't hear anything similar in the BFD full version.

http://www.platinumsample...coKits/EvilEcoKit1.php

Maybe someone can shed some light on this...

Otherwise, I've been a fan of EZ and now SD even since I've first tried EZ. Overall, the BFD kits seem to sound more natural. If I were a drummer, I'd probably be inclined to use BFD.

EZ and SD kits seem a bit more "prepared" - not as excessively as Steven Slate's SSD kits, but kinda half-way.

As a songwriter and "aspiring engineer", EZ and SD puts me a few steps further on the way to a good drum sound for the song w/o being as processed as SSD, so I can still polish them a bit and make them work in the song myself.

I've never been entirely sure what machine gunning is. To my ears what you described as machine gunning sounds like a badly programmed drum roll where the velocities are all the same.
I'm not sure how old this add is but I notice that it's advertising BFD 2.1 (it's currently at 2.3) so that dates it to over a year old. 
Since then both Eco & BFD2 have gone 64bit. BFD Eco now has an "anti machine gun" tick box which may well have been added since the demo was made.
I know there were a number of posts I'd seen on the fx forum a while back about it so it may well be a thing of the past now ?


Steve


By the way, BFD Eco has just had an update as of today.