Here is my personal thing about virtual drums. It is cool to have an option for overhead mics, but if that is the only way to get the cymbals, I do not like it. The reason we don't completely separate cymbals (and all drum sounds) with a live player is because we can't very easily. For me, bleed is never desired.
Do either or both of these have separate cymbals apart from overheads? The stuff I read on the toontracks site seemed to imply that cymbals were only via OH, but possibly it was just not stated clearly.