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  • EZ vs Eco...? (p.5)
2012/08/10 21:53:09
Beepster
konradh... if you have the fifty bucks do it, bro. It is really unbelievable and that PS Rock Legends kit is extremely versatile.
2012/08/10 21:59:14
cclarry
Beepster


konradh... if you have the fifty bucks do it, bro. It is really unbelievable and that PS Rock Legends kit is extremely versatile.

I second that...


What I find impressive about BFD (I have Eco) is the velocity layers...I mean it's pretty amazing...it's just like soft to hard hitting of 
the cymbals and drums...it's a pretty impressive thing...but it also explains why the files are massive...

At $49 for BFD Eco and the VERY impressive Rock Legends kit....THAT....to me...is a No-Brainer...and it also gets you to upgrade price on BFD
if you should so desire to go there...
2012/08/10 22:13:28
Beepster
@cclarry... As I stated in my long winded BFD thread I have NEVER been able to get my padKontrol to respond properly to velocities with any other program. I thought the device was defective or just crap. I thought I was going to have to set it to Fixed Velocity and tweak it in the PRV after the fact. With BFD I could get super smooth sensitivity for the first time. I was gonna pay the $300 for BFD2 when I had the dough because I needed something decent to cover my "live" drum needs. Then I learned about Eco at $100 and I rejoiced... THEN I found out about the $50 deal and freaked. THEN I actually started using the program and needed a change of draws. THEN I got the Rock Legends kit installed and running... well... I think I need a bigger mop. ;-p
2012/08/10 22:27:26
Rain
cclarry


Beepster


konradh... if you have the fifty bucks do it, bro. It is really unbelievable and that PS Rock Legends kit is extremely versatile.

I second that...


What I find impressive about BFD (I have Eco) is the velocity layers...I mean it's pretty amazing...it's just like soft to hard hitting of 
the cymbals and drums...it's a pretty impressive thing...but it also explains why the files are massive...

At $49 for BFD Eco and the VERY impressive Rock Legends kit....THAT....to me...is a No-Brainer...and it also gets you to upgrade price on BFD
if you should so desire to go there...



x10

After we discussed it here last night, I went on and decided to spend a bit more time w/ BFD Eco and Rock Legends. I already knew the kit was great - it's the reason that motivated me to give BFD a try.


After I routed each output to its own track, I imported a midi drum track I've been tweaking for ages, hit play and started adding EQ and compression. Man...


I mentioned earlier that what I dug w/ SD is that it was somehow midway between dry and processed - meaning that when you select a kit that fits w/ the song, you still can tweak but you don't have too much to do. Not having experience mixing real, natural drums, that seemed like the best option to me. 


It only took a few minutes and I had sculpted those Rock Legend samples in a way that I could never imagined - easily the best drums sound I've ever heard coming out of my DAW, using nothing but the stock compressor and EQ in my DAW. And, much to my surprise, it was actually easier than w/ other kits I usually work w/. Not bad for my ego. ;)


That $50 I spend on BFD+Rock Legends is easily one of the best investments I could make. I've just purchased Evil Drums Eco, and seriously, between those 2, considering how flexible they are, I think I'll have an awesome drums library which will probably suit my needs for most of what I do as far as acoustic drums are concerned.
 
2012/08/10 22:30:31
ltb
Also to point out that the upgrade deal is pretty good. I got the BDF2 upgrade for $85.00 delivered in the U.S. when purchasing the ECO +Legends promo first.
 
That's $135.00 total for all 3.


2012/08/10 22:38:30
Rain
May be worth mentioning...

I think BFD's GUI would benefit from a bit of refinement, graphics-wise. It's strictly aesthetic, but, it had an impact on my perception of it. I also think that the demos on FX Pansion's web site do not do the product justice. Honestly, it wasn't until I heard Rock Legends that I revised my judgement.

I'd say the same thing about Platinum Samples web site design. I don't mean to sound like a prick because honestly those guys make the best samples I have heard, but there's something about it that reminds me those old geocities web pages. I'd hate to think I may be insulting anyone at PS so I apologize if I am - your libraries are just so incredible! 

I totally understand that PS probably focuses on what really matters, but these are just my 2 cents - between BFD's GUI, the demos on FXPansion's web site and the design of Platinum Samples' site, I discarded BFD for a long time - for all the wrong reasons. But I find it sad to think that other pricks like me could miss out on those terrific products because of that.

So to anyone like there who neglected to check these guys out on similar basis - dude, do yourself a favor, forget about graphics and go listen to those samples!
2012/08/10 22:43:18
Beepster
@Rain... Check out some of the main Presets too. I tossed on "Big and Roomy" or whatever it is called and it was pretty much right where I wanted it. Also just going through the Mixer presets with the RL kit produced some crazy sounding and extremely useful sounds too. It's amazing software and I cannot believe how inexpensive it is. Seriously. I am not a gusher but I am friggen' gushing. Best $50 I've ever spent.
2012/08/10 22:47:37
Beepster
@Rain... in regards to the actual sounds of BFD the Rock Legends kit is actually far better than the included kits IMO and isn't from FXpansion. Imma gonna be going to the Platinum Samples guys for more content when funds are available. I'd REALLY like the Andy John's Classic Kits pack but it's currently $200. It is however 65 gigs worth of awesome. Cheers.
2012/08/10 23:00:12
Rain
Beepster


@Rain... in regards to the actual sounds of BFD the Rock Legends kit is actually far better than the included kits IMO and isn't from FXpansion. Imma gonna be going to the Platinum Samples guys for more content when funds are available. I'd REALLY like the Andy John's Classic Kits pack but it's currently $200. It is however 65 gigs worth of awesome. Cheers.

Yeah, I've already spotted a few sweet kits on PS' site. As you say, from just browsing through quickly before a session, I wasn't too impressed w/ the included kits. That's one of the reason I thought it'd be a lot of work to get those kits to sound great for my purpose and that I might not have the skills to do that just now. I couldn't deal w/ the set back. 


I may be weird, but I'd actually like it if I could buy just the software upgrade w/o all the extra sample from FX Pansion. I don't want 400 GB of drums samples - I actually like to have just a couple of smaller libraries. I guess I could always buy the upgrade and simply not install them...




Sidenote - I noticed that the Platinum Samples installers don't seem to like my external HD. I can't install on it because the installer claims that there is no space left - despite over 1 TB of free space. No biggie, as I can just install on the internal drive and transfer afterwards, but I thought it was worth mentioning.
2012/08/10 23:04:51
chuckebaby
i preffer ez drummer myself.the sounds are just a tab bit more realistic in my opinion.
and you cant tell me the gui isnt the coolest thing since sliced bread.
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