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Looking forward to X1b in the hope of getting something stable with which to work. Sadly despite all efforts X1a is broken for me. While 8.3 and 8.5 continue to work well.

With previous versions it was me who always had the perfect sytsem that just ran fine (apart from acknowledged bugs) from the very first release. My turn to have a complete and utter failure. This is a first in about 15 years. Ces't la vie.

Mike - your epxerience with X1 is uncannilly similar to mine. Especially:

it was me who always had the perfect sytsem that just ran fine... from the very first release. My turn to have a complete and utter failure

 

Of course, I've been busily making music with Sonar since Sonar 5, and I've lived through numerous iterations of the product.  Purchased every one, except seven, I think....

That long and you just joined the forum 2 days ago?

g_randybrown

Of course, I've been busily making music with Sonar since Sonar 5, and I've lived through numerous iterations of the product.  Purchased every one, except seven, I think....

That long and you just joined the forum 2 days ago?

That's perfectly feasible. I never used the forum until 2008 and I started on GT Pro and then moved to Sonar 2 which was 2002 I think. 6 years of Sonar experience before I joined although my upgrade path was 2->4->5->7->8.3->8.5 free X1 upgrade offer.

Not all users of the software come here and not all new to the forums are noobs to Sonar.

That long and you just joined the forum 2 days ago?

Well, yes, not unlike many folks here I never really had any issues that caused me to lose work, or that corrupted previous versions. 

Some on the forum are probably doubting my history with Cakewalk.  Fact is I hate being involved in forums, which is why I don't post here.  But for the doubters and the haters:
1/8/2011
SONAR X1 Boxes

12/14/2010
Dimension Pro 1.5

12/14/2010
Guitar Rig 4 LE (incl w SONAR X1)

12/14/2010
SONAR X1 Producer

12/21/2009
Elite Pack

12/21/2009
SONAR 8.5 Producer

12/21/2009
SWA Complete SONAR 8.5 video HD


5/4/2009
SONAR 8 Producer

11/28/2006
SONAR 6 Producer

3/19/2006
SONAR 5 Producer

I finally got around to uninstalling sonar 6, 8 and 8.5.  UNinstalled the c++ stuff as well.  Was going to press on without doing this, but 8.5 stopped working completely.  Weird.

Went in to the registry, deleted all the Cakewalk files etc..

Since 8.5 was downloaded, I went back to my downloads folder and tried to reinstall it.  No dice.  Downloading it again now, (95 kbs.  Thanks cakewalk.  S1 downloaded at over 240) will try to reinstall it later.  I have the disks for 8, so maybe I take two steps back.

Anyway, had clients in the studio.  Had to do something.  Engineer pressing me to buy PT9.  Downloaded the s1 demo version instead. 

Yes, S1 looks like a toy.  Really horrible on the screen, unless you like greyscale and have eyes like microscopes.  However: it downloaded in 5 minutes.  I tracked a song with 49 separate tracks.  It performed flawlessly.  It sounds good.  It works.  Did I mention that it works?  No clicks, no pops, no jitter, low latency.  None of the legacy issues that I have been conditioned to accept as a Sonar user.  Damn tuner plug in even works.  Imagine that on a 64 bit machine...Best part-Cost: ZERO.  Yeah, it's way shy of sonar 8.5.3 in functionality.  From what I got to hear out of x1 before it turned into a pile of grey computer goo, x1 is sonically superior.  But, it doesn't work.  It just doesn't work. God D****** it just doesn't frickin WORK!

  I am damn pleased that it works for some folks.  Really tickled.  I just ain't one of them.  I've always been one of the lucky ones.  Not this time...

And, for the record, I am not "part of the problem" because I expect the software to work as advertised.  I've spent 24 hours recording worthless tracks, debugging, crashing, throwing stuff, uninstalling, etc. registry-ing, re-recording tracks that I'm not getting paid for... So let me say to my CW developer friends: I hope your donuts are stale Monday morning.  But I also hope they're consumed at a meeting of the minds where someone with a little common sense will speak up and say something to the effect of "Hey guys. we're killing our own brand.  We should probably stop that."

I can't say enough times that someone up at CW needs to make the decision to pull the plug on continued sales until the major crash bugs are fixed.  It's just good business sense folks.  You've shot yourselves in the foot.  Put the gun down!  Fix x1, THEN sell it.  Take steps to make things right with your existing customers.  Right now.  Whatever you have to do. 

For me, I'm going to try to get 8.5.3 working again.  Really love that program, and don't feel compelled to spend two cents on anything else at the moment.  Still, I am HUGELY disappointed in x1.  It's a headache in a box.

At this point I have not upgraded to X1; I'm ok waiting a few months till more of the bugs get worked out.

So I'm still using 8.5.3.

And guys, I give you my internet word that the content of this post is true. 

I don't find any differnces except on the aspect and workflow ....but i must that cpu talking , the video engine of X1 is way more hungry...done the test specially on the console view ....

Saying X1 is more stable than 8.5.x and give no dropout just translate the "tolerance" variable on the AUD.ini ....that indicate when to dropout (how many samples lost before dropping out)

So to sum up i  simply think : 

Superior to full HD screen  + New cpu based comp : X1
if no stick with 8.5 ......in person i have 1900*1200 screen on my main daw I7 920 but still on 8.5....because of workflow issues that making me stay away from X1 for now ...

I always found that 8.5.3 did an amazing job handling all my audio needs, X1 hasn't changed that, The only negative thing I can say as far as preformance  goes in X1 is , I find sluggish movement when dragging windows around , not sure why. 8.5.3 for me its smooth as glass when moving windows around. 
 Im Just patiently waiting to see what CW dose with x1b.

 For me my overall experience in X1 has not been good by any means at all. My setup has crashed more times in 2 months with x1 then ever before, since I been upgrading every year since version 3 I can total up all crashes and it dosen't add up to the last 2 months,( might be exaggerating a little ).. but the handling of audio preformance is top notch.  Im sure X2 will be super stable, Im not planning on x1b to be the savior as 2 months I don't think is enough time for the developers to nearly fix everything that went wrong. But hopefully they get close and I can begin to have fun once again making music. 

 

I hope the Cakewalk folks are taking in all these comments and having a major meeting to determine where they are going.
 
1.  Do they want to make a daw for recording with a lot of outboard gear, or a daw for making it all in the daw, or both?  
2.  Do they want the customer to have a lot of flexibility in the coloring and font contrast scheme?
3.  Do they want to issue a product that is more audio based and another that has the video functions - I imagine the majority do not put video in.
4.  One approach may be to do the X1B mod, but announce another product that will take the best of X1B and just apply it to 8.5.3. 
 

deswind


I hope the Cakewalk folks are taking in all these comments and having a major meeting to determine where they are going.
 
1.  Do they want to make a daw for recording with a lot of outboard gear, or a daw for making it all in the daw, or both?  
2.  Do they want the customer to have a lot of flexibility in the coloring and font contrast scheme?
3.  Do they want to issue a product that is more audio based and another that has the video functions - I imagine the majority do not put video in.
4.  One approach may be to do the X1B mod, but announce another product that will take the best of X1B and just apply it to 8.5.3.  I am willing to pay double or triple for this LEGACY ENHANCED 8.5.3. product, as I will easily make up that money in time saved.