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  • I Should Have Known Better
2014/02/18 16:09:57
groveendroad
I last posted this in the summer of 2010. This is a remix from the feed back I received at the time. 
It's one of my fav Lyrics, so I don't want to give up on this one.
 
http://www.reverbnation.c...ould-have-known-better
 
 
 
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Words and music by Terry Carroll
All Vocals, instrumentation, production, arrangements and engineering by Terry Carroll, with the help and feed back of the fine people on this site.
 
Cheers, Terry
 
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Killing Bono             http://youtu.be/Hvg_keFDc3s
La bamba                http://youtu.be/QX_TUO_rZl0
Rock Star                http://youtu.be/-OTQoNvgyYs
Stoned                   http://youtu.be/_PYegkvibro
A Hard Days Night   http://youtu.be/q0eJEX5c1sM
 
 
 
 
 
I am using Cakewalk Sonar X3 
M-audio interface
Words and music by Terry Carroll
All Vocals, instrumentation, production, arrangements and engineering by Terry Carroll, with the help and feed back of the fine people on this site.
 
 
 
 
 
 
2014/02/18 19:28:48
Voda La Void
I like the music, has an oldies Beatles approach, but I don't like the vocals at all.  They sound particularly pitchy in the first verse, got a little better after that.  Again, the music is fine, mixed pretty well to my ear. 
2014/02/19 09:06:08
rebel007
I can see why you didn't want to give up on this Terry, this is a great song.
It's a very clean mix, and when I turn the volume down I lose everything but your vocal, it's still loud and cuts through. I would've preferred some mastering effect like a reverb, but that's just a personal preference only. I really enjoy the tone of your voice, it's different and makes me sit up and listen.
I haven't been on this forum for very long so I didn't hear the earlier version you posted, but this is good songwriting.
2014/02/19 09:52:19
daryl1968
Hi Terry
I think I remember this one from the original post. Great song with a retro feel.
I like the vocal - it has a Bob Dylan/Tom Petty feel about it. My only crit is that the vocal may be a bit too loud in the mix.
2014/02/19 13:57:06
groveendroad
Hi VODA,
 
THANKS FOR THE HEADS UP.  I GOT SOME CORDS MIXED UP. I'M TO CLOSE TO THIS ONE NOW, AND IT'S HARD FOR ME TO HEAR THINGS AS WELL AS I SHOULD, BUT I WAS USING SOME WRONG CORDS IN THE BASS LINE. I'M NOT SURE IF IT FIXES THE VOCAL SOUND OR NOT. ALSO, I'M NOT SURE IF THE RIGHT PIANO HAS A BAD EFECT  OR NOT. I DO EVERY THING START TO FINISH, SO I'M NEVER ON THE OUT SIDE OF A SONG. SO, I THANK YOU FOR THE HELP 
 
TERRY
http://soundcloud.com/sil...ld-have-known-better-1
2014/02/19 21:29:23
Lynn
Terry, you write the most unique songs that are tailored for your voice so well.  I particularly like this song and its sparse arrangement.  However, I agree that you might try some pitch correction on your vocal, as I hear the pitchiness, too.  I believe that would turn this song into a gem.  This song is too good to ignore. 
2014/02/20 08:19:14
Guitarhacker
Cool tune.
 
Yeah get yourself a copy of Melodyne. I use it on all my vocal tracks, no matter the singer and no matter how well they have sung the track. There's always something that needs fixing. THere's no shame in using pitch correction software. I guarantee that every singer you hear on the radio was pitch fixed in some way during the production/mixing. That's the reason that when they play the Grammys and other awards shows and concerts, they are singing slightly out of tune if they're not lip synched.  Not even the best can sing in tune all the time.
 
Don't give up on a song if you like it too.   I hear the entire "too close to the song" story.  It happens. Mostly, with me, it's that I get locked into hearing it a certain way and have a hard time making the changes to it to hear it a different way. Set it on the shelf and forget about it for a few months. Go on a write and work on some other things to get the brain refocused on other things.
 
Then, play it again after that time has passed. Quite often, you will now hear things that DO need to be changed. Sometimes, just a subtle change or sometimes a complete and total redo of the production.
2014/02/20 08:24:14
jamesg1213
Lynn
 However, I agree that you might try some pitch correction on your vocal, as I hear the pitchiness, too.

 
Guitarhacker
 
Yeah get yourself a copy of Melodyne. I use it on all my vocal tracks
 



 
Hate to be 'old school', but being as Terry like all of us, has a home studio with no money burning on the clock, how about just doing a re-take sung in tune? Would you re-do an out of tune guitar part or fix it with Melodyne?
2014/04/09 10:38:33
groveendroad
I think I fixed it all. Thank you for your input. Please let me know what you think
 
http://www.reverbnation.com/silverbeat
 
 
Cheers, Terry
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