How will the new "take lanes" differ from "layers"?



best regards,
mike

Have you looked at Cubase or Nuendo? I'm pretty sure it's something like that. Like the automation lanes introduced in X2 but with audio clips and perhaps a better comping feature

Some of us took a survey about "live tracking" with SONAR.


The so called "automation lanes" are described as such in the new X2 promo info.

I am referring to the "New! take lanes" which I assume is the result of some effort to address live tracking tasks in a fast paced environment.

I had filled out the form with some suggestions that indicated that I hoped it might be a little easier to manage takes, or at least info about takes.

Don't get me wrong, I love layers... they are a favorite feature... but I was hoping there might be some additional logging or clip ID functionality.

I'm think, perhaps, that somehow "take lanes" may refer to something of this nature.

I'm curious.


best regards,
mike

Yeah, exactly. I probably could have explained it better. I tried to explain what they look like

But if they're anything like take lanes that I've seen in other DAW's then they look like the automation lanes shown in the X2 video but containing audio instead of envelopes. It's like tracks within the tracks instead of several clips on top of each other in the same track.

My guess is that this will open up a world of possibilities when it comes to organizing, audition and comping of multiple takes in the same time frame on a track. And if it's anything like how they work in Nuendo, where I use this nearly every day, then you'll get what you - and my self - wished for in the survey you mentioned.

Exactly how they'll work in X2 I couldn't tell you as all this is mere speculations. However this is probably the feature I'm looking forward to explore the most. I love layers too, I've just always thought there would be a better way to implement them and my vote has always been on take lanes

Track layers still seem buggy to me.  If you rebuild layers there's no telling where solos/mutes will show up.  Layers jump around, sometimes wind up on top of each other.  I'm hoping this feature will fix all that and provide easy comping, maybe like Reaper does.

CoteRotie - that's been one of my grudges with track layers too. I got my hopes up and fingers crossed

The main difference is that the Lanes live outside of the host track, like automation lanes do. Layers, on the other hand, would all live in the main track, and things could get very small and fidgety if you had a lot of takes/ layers in a single track. 

There's also a section for writing notes next to each lane, as well as per-lane Record buttons and Edit Filters. As such you will be able to record directly into a given lane and also show Clips or AudioSnap transients on a per-lane basis, all of which were impossible with layers.

Additionally, the Inline PRV behaves uniquely as its own, independent PRV in lanes on MIDI and Instrument tracks. So, you could have multiple Lanes on a single track driving different parts of a multi-timbrel synth (handy for MIDI drum arrangement and other things). Or be able to manage different MIDI takes in their own, separate Inline PRV for editing, all with their own Mute, Solo, and Record buttons. 

As you can see its a pretty big feature that touches many aspects of the program. We should have a blog post about this feature in the coming weeks with screenshots and a more in depth explanation. 

SP

Thanks Seth.

Thanks Project M for elaborating I wasn't aware of the other examples you were speaking of so it didn't make sense to me. Thanks for taking the time to follow up.


all the best,
mike

Quick question.

How will the Take lanes effect the practice of monitoring input echo while recording.

I've abandoned hardware monitor routing and I no longer use the monitor matrix on my MOTU stuff either. I've become accustomed to setting up monitoring through SONAR and using pretty much any effect I wish as well.

When I consider the idea that the take lanes live outside the track it makes me wonder how input echo is going to work.

Will I still be able to live the dream and run the tracking monitoring through SONAR and it's fx bin and enjoy the low latency performance as I have for the past few years?


best regards,
mike

Sounds like a lesser track folder the difference being that each lane is still subject to the single out/input of the track.

Looking forward to the automation lanes though. Clip automation is still withing the clip?