Hello everyone,
I have been recording smaller drum kit 2-0H, 1-tom,1-floor, 2-mike on kick, 2-mike on snare and 1-HH.
 
the issue i have is not related to the end quality result but more over the management of the tracks and layer after a few takes it was still okay to insert layers and mute the tracks layer with smaller kit. But the kit i have to do the recording on is quite larger and is giving me cold sweat. 4 more toms, 1 more floor a second kick and and another snare. 
 
quality wise i am very pleased with the test recording we did but it has been a pain to click and click and click and click, i have managed to keep the drummer happy cause i know him very well. But it will not always be that way.
 
any ideas to be more efficent.
 
Thx
 
Norm

Maybe it would be easier, since it's such a large kit, to make a track template with all the tracks within a folder?

Then you just drag and drop the track template into the project and have everything setup for recording. Once you've recorded and feel you need more takes, you just name this folder "take one" and then just drag and drop a new fresh track template into the project and start to record the next take in there?

By doing this you can easily listen to the different takes just by muting/unmuting the entire track folders.

Since there are so many track the hard drive may have trouble reading all the tracks fast enough after a while too.. Another nice thing with having all takes in different folders is that you very quickly can archive whole takes. By doing this the hard drive won't try and play these tracks wich will make it much easier on the drive.

After the session is done you can just drag and drop another track template into the project and listen trough the different takes and put the once you like in this new "final take"-track template and then finally archive and hide the tracks you don't want to see in the project any more.

With this method you'll get lots of tracks, yes. But you'll get a much better overview.. And since you're using track folders, you can easily fold/solo/archive/mute each take.

I have almost as many drum mics and I just do my takes linearly one after another instead of rewinding and layering. It works for me, although I'd love to have some real "take management" integrated. 

i do use track folder and template and it is indeed helping a lot.
 
Was wandering how other people were managing a setup like this one.
Cakewalk last take on drum was nice but it delt with the end result of the takes.
to me it did not sound like it was recorded using Sonar.
 
thx for the help Loptec
 
Norm

eric_peterson


I have almost as many drum mics and I just do my takes linearly one after another instead of rewinding and layering. It works for me, although I'd love to have some real "take management" integrated. 

Interesting view. there are already in the songs some tempo automation tho. the songs are progressive rock and lotsa tempo change. not sure if this would speed up my work.
 
thx :)

We just use SONAR simply as a big tape recorder. Nothing is sequenced, no tempo changes are built in. All mics/inputs are tracked at once. So, that's why it works for me to just wander into the next take from the previous take.   You would probably benefit from some kind of real take management where the take number was on a widget at the top of the page and track lanes not part of that take got filtered and/or auto-muted everywhere when you selected the take number. Some day ...

eric_peterson


We just use SONAR simply as a big tape recorder. Nothing is sequenced, no tempo changes are built in. All mics/inputs are tracked at once. So, that's why it works for me to just wander into the next take from the previous take.   You would probably benefit from some kind of real take management where the take number was on a widget at the top of the page and track lanes not part of that take got filtered and/or auto-muted everywhere when you selected the take number. Some day ...

i wouldn't mind spending some time to prepare the work flow of the recording to come in order to have easier managable takes for this kind of mike drum or any other instruments bigger setup.
 
Maybe some day :-)
thx for you input Eric
 
Normand