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2012/08/14 11:35:51
PTheory
Apologies if this has been discussed before but I am looking for advice on which is the better drum production set for realistic live drums with grooves pre supplied

Does anyone have experience of both and therefore a preference?
2012/08/14 11:43:16
cclarry
You'll get a ZILLION responses to this..

Both are VERY VERY GOOD.

SD is a little more processed...

I highly recommend getting the BFD Eco deal for $49 and the Rock Legends Quick Kit Free..

You can get it for $44.99 at AudioDeluxe...

http://audiodeluxe.com/products/fxpansion-bfd-eco

That way you can HEAR...well worth the money...
and it  get's you to the Upgrade price for BFD.

If SD is the way you want to go...if you own EZDrummer you can upgrade to SD
with the kit of your choice for $169 at AudioDeluxe..

http://audiodeluxe.com/products/toontrack-superior-20-crossgrade-and-custom-vintage-sdx-bundle

Cheers!!
2012/08/14 11:43:40
Loptec

i haven't tried both (i use superior drummer)..
but what i've heard is that the main difference (except for obvious things like UI) is that the sounds in BFD are more processed than the sounds in Superioud Drummer.

I can't confirm this, though..
But if this is the case I'm guessing BFD could be nice if you just want to get great sounding drums real fast and superior drummer is better if you want to shape the sounds more yourself.

In terms of realism I think you can get awesome results with any of them.
2012/08/14 11:44:20
Bristol_Jonesey
BFD - but only because I own it, love it, and have never experienced Superior.
2012/08/14 11:45:44
Bristol_Jonesey
Loptec


i haven't tried both (i use superior drummer)..
but what i've heard is that the main difference (except for obvious things like UI) is that the sounds in BFD are more processed than the sounds in Superioud Drummer.

I can't confirm this, though..
But if this is the case I'm guessing BFD could be nice if you just want to get great sounding drums real fast and superior drummer is better if you want to shape the sounds more yourself.

In terms of realism I think you can get awesome results with any of them.

You've heard wrong!

All BFD samples are recorded in pristine clean quality with NO PROCESSING

2012/08/14 11:47:36
cclarry
Loptec


i haven't tried both (i use superior drummer)..
but what i've heard is that the main difference (except for obvious things like UI) is that the sounds in BFD are more processed than the sounds in Superioud Drummer.

I can't confirm this, though..
But if this is the case I'm guessing BFD could be nice if you just want to get great sounding drums real fast and superior drummer is better if you want to shape the sounds more yourself.

In terms of realism I think you can get awesome results with any of them.

Actually it's the opposite..


SD is more processed out of the box by general consensus...but I could be wrong.
I have BFD Eco, and I have to say, it's pretty amazing...the velocity layers are incredible, and Eco has less then full BFD!
BOTH are HIGHLY DEFINABLE...


They BOTH do basically the same thing...comes down to YOUR ears...as with everything else...

Cheers
2012/08/14 11:49:08
cclarry
I also have EZ Drummer, Steven Slate, and Addictive Drums, which is my favorite...
it's quick, down, and out...but also HIGHLY definable.
2012/08/14 11:50:19
cclarry
Bristol_Jonesey


Loptec


i haven't tried both (i use superior drummer)..
but what i've heard is that the main difference (except for obvious things like UI) is that the sounds in BFD are more processed than the sounds in Superioud Drummer.

I can't confirm this, though..
But if this is the case I'm guessing BFD could be nice if you just want to get great sounding drums real fast and superior drummer is better if you want to shape the sounds more yourself.

In terms of realism I think you can get awesome results with any of them.

You've heard wrong!

All BFD samples are recorded in pristine clean quality with NO PROCESSING
+1

2012/08/14 11:56:21
Pragi
Hi Ptheory,
Superior Drummer here. It´s the best virtuell drummer I have  ever heard.
The velocity - and humanizing-tools make my (drumcreating-)life much easier
and the ambience- and overhead-sounds are awesome.
But.........I don´t know BFD...........

2012/08/14 12:11:42
Loptec
cclarry


Bristol_Jonesey


Loptec


i haven't tried both (i use superior drummer)..
but what i've heard is that the main difference (except for obvious things like UI) is that the sounds in BFD are more processed than the sounds in Superioud Drummer.

I can't confirm this, though..
But if this is the case I'm guessing BFD could be nice if you just want to get great sounding drums real fast and superior drummer is better if you want to shape the sounds more yourself.

In terms of realism I think you can get awesome results with any of them.

You've heard wrong!

All BFD samples are recorded in pristine clean quality with NO PROCESSING
+1

Haha.. Well ok. :)
As i said, it was just what i've heard..    

You've heard wrong as well though, since the samples in superior drummer aren't pre-processed either.
The cheeper expansions for EZ-Drummer are processed, but the ones you get for Superior drummer are clean.. :)

You get all mics on separate channels.. and with this I don't mean just the different drums on different channels.. 
You get all microphones on different channels.. so if they recorded the kick-drum with three microphones you get
them all on separate tracks. And you often get several room-mics to choose from as well plus (in their latest expansion "Roots")  
an extra channel where they've recorded everything in a special reverb-room, so you get a "real" recorded reverb that you
can apply to any of the drums.

..and to be able to control the hihat-pedal with a MIDI-controller (default being 1 (mod-wheel)) wich gives you
total real-time control over the hihat's position and also being able to control where on the drumhead you want to
hit (also with MIDI-controllers) gives you a rediculous amount of expression in your drum sound 

The thing you should do is to visit their websites and check their vidios and listen to their
audio-samples and then decide wich one you like the most.

These kinds of threds won't help you at all, since people just will praise the one they use them selves...
as you may have noticed.. :P



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