It seems there is not an application available yet that can do everything X1 can do and also play 1 track of video (with several clips on the track).
I looked around for ways to slave one computer to the other but the examples I saw used logic or PT on a Mac synced to another Mac.
Does anyone know if there's a way to have X1 on one PC and say Vegas Pro on another, synced to where I could hit play/record on the X1 PC and it play the Vegas timeline on the other PC?
Thanks very much,
Randy

You should be able to do that with MTC/MMC perhaps. I used to sync a Yamaha Aw4416 to Sonar that way. Why not a second PC? There was a bit of delay in the start/stop between machines though..

Why can't you finish editing the clips on Vegas and then export the AVI and import it into Sonar to add the audio? I believe that's how Sonar is intended to work with video.

Daveny, I can't speak for the OP, by my experience is that directors often change the timeline, leave things blank, chop and swop etc - nothing is set in stone till the deadine. Sonar single-clip policy has been a source of annoyance for me on more than one occasion as well.

OK, got it.

LJB


Daveny, I can't speak for the OP, by my experience is that directors often change the timeline, leave things blank, chop and swop etc - nothing is set in stone till the deadine. Sonar single-clip policy has been a source of annoyance for me on more than one occasion as well.

The MTC thing sound like a great idea and I have thought of trying it many times,  but I have never had a real hard core reason to try it.  I think if I scored a long movie and needed wall to wall music I might try this.  i don't like working in larger than 10-15 min video chunks in Sonar
 
As far as directors changing timelines, blank areas etc... Yes this happens to me every week.  I just plop the changes into Vegas and then go to work on the audio in Sonar.  I usually look really good to the producers 'cause they know they can throw anything at me, I don't complain, I turn around and even on a bad day,  give them a decent sounding track.  Some of them can't figure how I do it,  how I can get a hit to happen in the right spot when they sent me elements on different days and different pic references.  It is because i can do a little video editing and I have a ton of experience and a solid working template in both vegas and Sonar.   
 
The idea of having multiple Video tracks and timelines in Sonar seems to me to be a recipe for disaster and asking for sync issues.  I can't seem to wrap my head around how that would work.   Maybe I'm just too simple minded. 
 
So would you have the timeline solid in Sonar and you could move multiple videos back and forth?  When you moved the video would everything in Sonar follow it including audio, midi and tempo maps?  how does that work?
 
SO back to the OP...sorry 'bout the hijack..I'd suggest trying to sync thru MTC.  That should be pretty easy to do thru midi cables if both computers have midi cards.  If not a router with a midi app should work.  I use to do this with GigaStudio on another computer.  It was a little PITA cause if you'd have to reboot anything you had to resync everything.   
 
I'd still suggest working with smaller picture chunks on one computer.  Put Vegas to work here.

Dave- Why can't you finish editing the clips on Vegas and then export the AVI and import it into Sonar to add the audio? I believe that's how Sonar is intended to work with video.




Jimbo- The idea of having multiple Video tracks and timelines in Sonar seems to me to be a recipe for disaster and asking for sync issues.  I can't seem to wrap my head around how that would work.   Maybe I'm just too simple minded.  
   So would you have the timeline solid in Sonar and you could move multiple videos back and forth?  When you moved the video would everything in Sonar follow it including audio, midi and tempo maps?  how does that work? 

Maybe this will make sense: I am creating the video and the audio...music montages if you will.
So I usually create the music in  Sonar and then cut the images to fit the audio in Vegas. Creating the music to a single file video is not practical at all if you think about it. 
What would suffice in my work would be to be able to have just one video track in Sonar but be able to add several clips to that track and cut them, slip edit them whatever to work with the audio.
Then export back to Vegas to tighten up the video.
If you've ever made more than a few music montages you'd be able to relate to this I think.
 

Hey Randy,

You might find that syncing Vegas and Sonar (on the same DAW - if it's fast enough) to be a little less tedious.

That said...
I'd just use Vegas to convert the video to Windows Media Video (.wmv) format... and do the Scoring work in Sonar.

g_randybrown


Dave- Why can't you finish editing the clips on Vegas and then export the AVI and import it into Sonar to add the audio? I believe that's how Sonar is intended to work with video.




Jimbo- The idea of having multiple Video tracks and timelines in Sonar seems to me to be a recipe for disaster and asking for sync issues.  I can't seem to wrap my head around how that would work.   Maybe I'm just too simple minded.  
  So would you have the timeline solid in Sonar and you could move multiple videos back and forth?  When you moved the video would everything in Sonar follow it including audio, midi and tempo maps?  how does that work? 

Maybe this will make sense: I am creating the video and the audio...music montages if you will.
So I usually create the music in  Sonar and then cut the images to fit the audio in Vegas. Creating the music to a single file video is not practical at all if you think about it. 
What would suffice in my work would be to be able to have just one video track in Sonar but be able to add several clips to that track and cut them, slip edit them whatever to work with the audio.
Then export back to Vegas to tighten up the video.
If you've ever made more than a few music montages you'd be able to relate to this I think.

Ahhhh..I got you.   In my world picture is king and you don't mess with the timeline for fear of death! 
 
You want to tweak Picture as you go along.  Have you tried Nuendo? 
 
Im not sure I could handle being able to move both.  I could only work with one at a time.  One reason is,  I can make music match picture any time, any place.  If I had to do it with a stop watch and manuscript score I'd be fine with that (probably happier).  I would cut the picture then make the music work.
     
You have a special situation. Good luck with that.  Nuendo is the only solution I think might be possible,  but I have not heard great things about Steinburg.  

You might find that syncing Vegas and Sonar (on the same DAW - if it's fast enough) to be a little less tedious. 


I'm all for less tedious, can you tell me where to find out how to do this?


That said...  I'd just use Vegas to convert the video to Windows Media Video (.wmv) format... and do the Scoring work in Sonar.


I don't think you quite understand the workflow I'm talking about Jim....these are music montages of fast cars etc with no scene being longer than a few seconds and has to hit right on the beat.
What I've done in the past is compose the music and import the finished mastered wav into Vegas...I can't imagine even trying to do it the opposite way (although I have with slow moving documentaries or corporate vids that just need music beds here and there).


Have you tried Nuendo?  
No sir but I'll have a look...thanks very much guys