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  • Cakewalk should offer Beta testing for new versions of Sonar. (p.3)
2012/08/16 14:49:59
Jonbouy
bapu



Cakewalk should offer Beta testing for new versions of Sonar.



{tongueInCheek}
That's an amazing observation.


I'm surprised they have not thought of it before you brought it up.
{/tongueInCheek}

I find it odd that you did not realize that they do have Beta Testers. Cakewalk just doesn't have "public betas". And I'm 100% certain the Beta Testers are bound to secrecy as to their identities.

That's just because you're Bapu and he did realize they have beta testers.

Bapu try harder...Mr Tongue in cheek.  I'm telling Mooch about this, you see if I don't...


2012/08/16 14:51:10
bapu
Jonbouy


bapu



Cakewalk should offer Beta testing for new versions of Sonar.



{tongueInCheek}
That's an amazing observation.


I'm surprised they have not thought of it before you brought it up.
{/tongueInCheek}

I find it odd that you did not realize that they do have Beta Testers. Cakewalk just doesn't have "public betas". And I'm 100% certain the Beta Testers are bound to secrecy as to their identities.

That's just because you're Bapu and he did realize they have beta testers.

Bapu try harder...Mr Tongue in cheek.  I'm telling Mooch about this, you see if I don't...

He's already seen it I'm sure.

OK, I'd even admit that I misread posts sometimes
2012/08/16 14:52:24
Jonbouy
rabeach


Jonbouy


Public beta-tests work.

There's never a shortage of volunteers at least for the ones I've been involved with.  It's kind of cool as well when you report a bug and it gets fixed it makes it feel like you have something invested in the product and somebody cares about your input.  The more worthwhile your input it seems the earlier you get the test versions too.  Companies that adopt a policy of public betas obviously take note of who is contributing positively.

I'm always bound to an NDA and stick by it, but when the product hits the shelves there's no secrets anyway.  It just stops some of the frustrations that early adopters end up having to confront.  I've not come across a downside. 

I don't mind the good people here paying to do it though, I can always jump in if/when I feel the quality is high enough at the appropiate *FREE* bugfix update time.

As for totally open public betas is there even such a thing?  All of them require you to apply and you get called in somewhere down the line, at what point is often dependant on whether you've contributed to one before, that's true of all companies that provide them.  So certainly Studio One and Bitwig do public betas.  Also, whatever product category somebody wants to put Reason in, the bottom line it is one of the most robust software products out of the box at release time there is.  That is the whole point.


Assuming separating the wheat from the chaff becomes more difficult as the number of testers reporting increases my guess would be that the required resources not yet in play at cakewalk to public beta test.



It could be that, it could just be a matter of policy.  Who knows?

I'm just advocating public betas as being a good QA procedure I'm not trying to best guess any company reasoning, resources or policy.
2012/08/16 14:54:05
bapu
bapu



Cakewalk should offer Beta testing for new versions of Sonar.



{tongueInCheek}
That's an amazing observation.


I'm surprised they have not thought of it before you brought it up.
{/tongueInCheek}

I find it odd that you did not realize that they do have Beta Testers. Cakewalk just doesn't have "public betas". And I'm 100% certain the Beta Testers are bound to secrecy as to their identities.






edit: only read the fred title. Sorry.

Sorry for not reading the content of the OP.


2012/08/16 14:55:35
bapu
bapu


bapu



Cakewalk should offer Beta testing for new versions of Sonar.



{tongueInCheek}
That's an amazing observation.


I'm surprised they have not thought of it before you brought it up.
{/tongueInCheek}

I find it odd that you did not realize that they do have Beta Testers. Cakewalk just doesn't have "public betas". And I'm 100% certain the Beta Testers are bound to secrecy as to their identities.






edit: only read the fred title. Sorry.

Sorry for not reading the content of the OP.

And I want to apologize for making so many apologies in one fred.


I just want EVERYONE to like me
2012/08/16 15:41:55
FastBikerBoy
bapu


bapu


bapu



Cakewalk should offer Beta testing for new versions of Sonar.



{tongueInCheek}
That's an amazing observation.


I'm surprised they have not thought of it before you brought it up.
{/tongueInCheek}

I find it odd that you did not realize that they do have Beta Testers. Cakewalk just doesn't have "public betas". And I'm 100% certain the Beta Testers are bound to secrecy as to their identities.






edit: only read the fred title. Sorry.

Sorry for not reading the content of the OP.

And I want to apologize for making so many apologies in one fred.


I just want EVERYONE to like me

Sorry, apology not accepted....
2012/08/16 15:44:50
bapu
FastBikerBoy


bapu


bapu


bapu



Cakewalk should offer Beta testing for new versions of Sonar.



{tongueInCheek}
That's an amazing observation.


I'm surprised they have not thought of it before you brought it up.
{/tongueInCheek}

I find it odd that you did not realize that they do have Beta Testers. Cakewalk just doesn't have "public betas". And I'm 100% certain the Beta Testers are bound to secrecy as to their identities.






edit: only read the fred title. Sorry.

Sorry for not reading the content of the OP.

And I want to apologize for making so many apologies in one fred.


I just want EVERYONE to like me

Sorry, apology not accepted....

What if I did it in 5/4 LIKE THIS ?
2012/08/16 18:49:11
FastBikerBoy
Nice shameless plug......
2012/08/16 21:10:30
Kev999
daveny5

They do, but you have to qualify for it. I applied once and never heard back from them. The application was not a simple form and so I've never reapplied.
Same here.  In my case, they probably didn't want somebody who still works on a Windows XP platform.

2012/08/16 23:01:38
dubdisciple





am not sure if Cubase does or not. Pro Tools I know does not but naming one or two companies that do not when most of the other major daws do is not a real defense.

You kind of shoot holes in your own premise.  How many major DAW companies do you feel exist? It's not like there are 100 major DAW companies and only 2 do not offer it.  Three of what are arguably the top 5 DAWs are listed.  That seems to indicate that open beta testing for these companies is an exception rather than the rule.   One reason they probably don't do it is to make a dent in piracy.  Name me a company that does completely open beta tests and i'll show you a company who's beta  is cracked and on the market before the final candidate is released.  It's bad enough dealing with complaints on the product you release, but dealing with complaints from people using cracked beta versions is a nightmare.



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