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  • ACT EXPERTS INPUT NEEDED can we do this to switch patches (p.3)
2012/08/16 02:34:20
SToons
myconsumerclub


also sonar develops synths for all the keyboardists but all we guitar players seem to get is watered down light versions of amp sims with one or 2 amps. How hard can it be to do something nice for us guitarists when your parent company is Roland who makes guitar modeling products?

Sonar ships with SessionDrummer 3 (lite  as no professional drum patches are included), Dimension LE (a lite version, they sell the full version), Rapture LE (a lite version, they sell the full version),  and Z3ta+ (another lite version, they sell the full version). Roland ships TTS-1, a cheap but functional GM synth, and Groove Player, another functional but hardly high end synth. So, no, they don't short change guitarists more than others.
 
Sonar is a DAW, not a GTR processor. You want more functionality, buy a dedicated setup like Guitar Rig with the included Foot Controller. You want to integrate every GTR modeler available into one easy setup? Well don't expect companies with a vested interest to make using the competition easy. It can be done with some creative workarounds as has been shown.
 
And don't blame Sonar that you don't go out and buy a $100 dedicated MIDI foot controller that would likely make it even easier. My POD is a dream to use in Sonar. So is GR3 from Waves. And Amplitube. But what you want is for them to instantly integrate together as if they are all one product and that's for the "individual" to solve, not the host company. You might like Coke mixed with Pepsi but don't expect to find it anytime soon in your neighbourhood grocery.
2012/08/16 11:17:44
myconsumerclub
my goal is to be able to make it happen with one control press not 2. If your playing guitar then tap dancing to hit 2 foot switches is a major pain. I'm new here and not the brightest user of sonar but isn't using input echo leaving the signal going through all the tracks and using CPU with all the amp sims active. I am curious about how to do this in a way were the amp sims are not a drain on the cpu so that as we play and switch to a new track the old track isn't sending a signal through the amp sim still so it doesn't add to un needed cpu usage. You guys know more than me I just am thinking in terms of keeping cpu usage down and how to best allow for more selection of tones to use. Z3ta and Dim pro are both on my system as full blown products not lite versions so yes we are getting short changed. That's 2 synths for keyboardists I think it is only fair to give us guitarists a full version of an amp modeling product since many guitarists don't play keys and we out number keyboardists as potential clients. lots of bands have 3 or 4 guitarists and only one keyboardist if any at all. Improving session drummer and making it a rival of Superior Drummer 2 and BFD would get them high praise from me if they did that. Come on now dream with me a little it's my birthday. I'm going to snag a roland gr55 next major purchase so I guess I will have a foot switch to use soon and the ability to play guitar into soft synths so that will be cool when I can do that next month. Probably want a behringer fcb1010 after that. It has 10 foot switches so that is why I limit the discussion to 10 patches but hey more is better. If there was a suggestion made that works I missed please point it out I might have missed it in reading through to fast.
2012/08/16 11:21:12
myconsumerclub
Doesn't using exclusive solo still send signal through an amp sim? If not then that might work and keep CPU usage down so we could use more tracks.
2012/08/16 11:48:04
myconsumerclub
Of course using exclusive solo would keep the backing track from being heard as well
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