bitflipper


My biggest issue with frozen tracks is you cannot add volume automation because if the track is subsequently unfrozen the automation will be lost. So I routinely bounce soft synths to a separate audio track in a separate folder, where it can then be treated like any normal audio track. I'll typically freeze the synth and then CTL-drag the frozen audio into a new track, archive and hide the original.

Now you're doing a straight all-audio mix. Effects and automation can be freely added, removed and tweaked without restrictions. And your CPU won't break a sweat, no matter how many heavy-duty soft synths you used.

The only downside to this technique is that it's a hassle to go back and edit the original MIDI, so I usually hold off until I'm happy with the MIDI, basic EQ/compression and starting volume levels. I'll also do some MIDI volume automation prior to bouncing, especially for orchestral swells and crescendos.

Really?  Not sure what's going on there.  When I freeze and unfreeze tracks, automation envelopes stay intact. 
 
If I had to redo automation everytime I freeze/unfreeze a track I'd probably lose my mind.   That would be a huge pain.

bladetragic

bitflipper


My biggest issue with frozen tracks is you cannot add volume automation because if the track is subsequently unfrozen the automation will be lost. So I routinely bounce soft synths to a separate audio track in a separate folder, where it can then be treated like any normal audio track. I'll typically freeze the synth and then CTL-drag the frozen audio into a new track, archive and hide the original.

Now you're doing a straight all-audio mix. Effects and automation can be freely added, removed and tweaked without restrictions. And your CPU won't break a sweat, no matter how many heavy-duty soft synths you used.

The only downside to this technique is that it's a hassle to go back and edit the original MIDI, so I usually hold off until I'm happy with the MIDI, basic EQ/compression and starting volume levels. I'll also do some MIDI volume automation prior to bouncing, especially for orchestral swells and crescendos.

Really?  Not sure what's going on there.  When I freeze and unfreeze tracks, automation envelopes stay intact. 
 
If I had to redo automation everytime I freeze/unfreeze a track I'd probably lose my mind.   That would be a huge pain.

I think what Bitflipper means is clip fades/envelopes and per clip fx, stuff like that - that is lost on unfreeze. Once I'm happy with the synth patch, position and the midi data I do as he does and just drag the frozen audio to a regular audio track and work on that instead.

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Great question asked, Jimbo 88 and brilliant answers, all!

Just by reading this thread I'm getting so much information here. Confirmation of what I'm doing right and new tricks I didn't new. (never thought of the ctrl-drag copy option of frozen tracks...)
I hope you don't find it unpolite of me to interfer like this, I just had to mention this! : )

I can confirm the ROCKIN' of this Forum!!!!!!!!

regards
Daniel

Great question asked, Jimbo 88 and brilliant answers, all! Just by reading this thread I'm getting so much information here. Confirmation of what I'm doing right and new tricks I didn't new. (never thought of the ctrl-drag copy option of frozen tracks...) I hope you don't find it unpolite of me to interfer like this, I just had to mention this! : ) I can confirm the ROCKIN' of this Forum!!!!!!!! regards Daniel

 
 
Hey you are not interfering at all.    Welcome to it.     +1 for all you said.  
 
I kinda, sorta know the some of the answers to questions I will ask here...but there is always someone with some great insight or a better way.  So I just ask and, "Poof!"    Great stuff.   Try it sometime.
 
I thank you all...