DUDE! you just.. HOLY! I just opened a seperate instance of FL, and like you said just using the browser lol! What a genius idea! sick man, this will save me so much time!

I truly love it when someone sorts something out like this. Gives me a lift ;^)

Hey !! 

So glad you have this working !!! 

And you know what ? This is also an awesome solution for video playback, 

If you know how much picky Sonar with video formats, well.. FL video player just seems to read them all, inclding QUICKTIME !!  (but you need FL signature bundle for that)

Still, the best would be that IL and Cakewalk gets to resolve the latency issue, 
it's most probably on CW's side, as there is no problem in cubase for example. 

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elijahlucian


  Bigdogs. you don't? what versions of both are you using? could you possibly try and help me debug my problem? I would really really appreciate it, if i could just use both my life would be complete.

Looks like you have a solution. If you still want to look into using FL inside Sonar I'd be happy to try things out - not at my main computer for another week or so though, but got both on my laptop, which also works fine.

I'm running Windows7 64 bit, but latest Sonar Expanded (32 Bit) and the latest non-Beta FL, and I don't have latency issues or stability problems. Laptop is 32 bit for everything.

Not often you get the opportunity to try and make someone's life complete!

glad this worked out. I honestly think programs like FL Studio are more intuitive in functionality for "making beats" in the hip-hop or dance sense of the phrase. Sonar should be able to do these things just as well in theory and I am sure someone dedicated enough to using Sonar can get similar results...it just doesn't seem to work out that way most of the time. That's ok to me. Fl has it's shortcomings too. FL and a few other programs like Geist work more like the sampling drum machine mainstays of hip-hop like the sp1200 and mpc60. One can hack something similar in Sonar by practicing a lot with the step sequencer and various sampler combinations but it's just not the same. No one DAW is going to provide 100% of everything for every genre. Sonar will work damn good across a wide range, but will likely need a third party solution for any genre you are very serious about on the production end.

I find my best stuff always comes when I use Battery 3...when I use samples I feel like I'm cheating but I usually mish-mash many samples together and mix it up until I have something new. But Battery 3 is ultimate creative expression for me.

Dude, I feel your pain. I've been complaining about the lack of a great sample player that doesn't get in the way for years. I have massive amounts of drum sounds and I never set up kits. I like to scroll through sounds until I hear "it." Nothing in Sonar allows me to do that. It should be effortless. Either be able to hit the arrow keys to audition or us CC's to assign a controller to cycle through sounds until you find the right one. My solution was NI's Maschine. Great tool. The only problem I have is the way it works with Sonar. I wish I could just freeze it like any other VST and have my beats recorded that way. But I can't. I have to export them to a folder and import them into Sonar or drag and drop them from Maschine to Sonar. Which, sounds like what you want to do but I having to do that interrupts my workflow. The best and most efficient method I had of working with drum sounds was a Sonar / Guru combination. I used Guru simply as a sample player but sequenced my drum sounds using Sonar. Easiest way ever. I had all the control over the samples I needed with Guru. I could scroll through sounds lightning quick. But, I had the work flow of Sonar. And when I got my drums bangin' like I like em', I just hit "freeze" and I was off to the next instrument. Best of both worlds. At least, for me. If Sonar came with a better sample player geared more toward us beat makers, I'd sell my Maschine and use that. As it stands now, Sonar is severely lacking in the very, very basic area. Until then, if you can find an old copy of Guru, try that. FXpansion stopped making Guru and began making Geist. I haven't used it but if the sample play works the same as Guru did, your problem is solved.

 Dude, I feel your pain. I've been complaining about the lack of a great sample player that doesn't get in the way for years. I have massive amounts of drum sounds and I never set up kits. I like to scroll through sounds until I hear "it." Nothing in Sonar allows me to do that. It should be effortless. Either be able to hit the arrow keys to audition or us CC's to assign a controller to cycle through sounds until you find the right one. My solution was NI's Maschine. Great tool. The only problem I have is the way it works with Sonar. I wish I could just freeze it like any other VST and have my beats recorded that way. But I can't. I have to export them to a folder and import them into Sonar or drag and drop them from Maschine to Sonar. Which, sounds like what you want to do but I having to do that interrupts my workflow. The best and most efficient method I had of working with drum sounds was a Sonar / Guru combination. I used Guru simply as a sample player but sequenced my drum sounds using Sonar. Easiest way ever. I had all the control over the samples I needed with Guru. I could scroll through sounds lightning quick. But, I had the work flow of Sonar. And when I got my drums bangin' like I like em', I just hit "freeze" and I was off to the next instrument. Best of both worlds. At least, for me. If Sonar came with a better sample player geared more toward us beat makers, I'd sell my Maschine and use that. As it stands now, Sonar is severely lacking in the very, very basic area. Until then, if you can find an old copy of Guru, try that. FXpansion stopped making Guru and began making Geist. I haven't used it but if the sample play works the same as Guru did, your problem is solved.

does anybody else get a creative block when trying to sequence electronic drums in sonar? 


nope 


there are MANY things to make it easy , in many programs... I question your knowledge of using sonar (and live for that matter) as you come across as dismissive .
not like there are things like track templates for example ? .  not like there are 808 / 909 kits in sonar for a start ;-) (groove synth) 

I use battery / guru to name but 2 things...  even if I didn't , I could still use stuff in sonar.. e.g. fx'ing drums for a start.


go back to using an atari st + akai 950.. trust me, you have it a lot easier..

i miss the s950...but not enough to actually use one again