elijahlucian


the up down keys don't audition the sound, that is actually one of the biggest problems. can you show me it working for you?

Can anyone else confirm this? In 8.5.3 if Auto is on in the Media Browser you can click on one sample and then cycle thru all the samples in a folder using the arrow keys and hear them. Is this another throwback to upgrading?

elijahlucian


  and by electronic i simply mean like this synth-pop era type drums... None of the kits in dimension or superior are useable for dance/pop so you end up having to use the clumsy browser to try and preview and import samples... I just end up making a placeholder beat and then making drums in another program. kind of pisses me off tbh.

See me iam total opposite of you, for me iam lost without sonar for drum programming, i think this sonar is Probally one of the best in this area,better than Studio one,Reaper,ableton,cubase,fruityloops,reason,Allthough stability stops me from using sonar full stop, but after programming drums in sonar nothing else quite compares, more so for the combination of the drum maps and the inline piano roll, that is the key for me, being able to see and compare different midi drum parts via the inline,  dont bother with step sequencer its too much a screen waster and lacks control over vst parameters, beatscape is more trouble than its worth.but For standard midi editing of drum parts you can not go wrong with the inline and drum maps. However if its maniupluation of audio loops i would forget it, you would need, stuff like Imagline slicex or FXpansions geist etc, some vst that will chop and slice audio like rex files do.
 
Personally i think its more about the add on drum vst you need, as far as drum devices included with sonar go, they are pretty basic and not worth the time if you want to be serious with the creativity, but like is say that stands for squat when it comes down too the instability of sonar and the sound engine etc, But if it is stable for you, including with bitridge then Imageline slicex for audio and drumaxx for electronic sounds, and with bitbridge un-needed Fxpansion geist for audio loop slicing and standard drum hit programming with up to 8 different kit engines, so thats 8x16 pads, not that you would need that many lol, and throw in the most important aspect you will need for electronic drum programming in any vst is round robbin settings.

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elijahlucian


the up down keys don't audition the sound, that is actually one of the biggest problems. can you show me it working for you?

Can anyone else confirm this? In 8.5.3 if Auto is on in the Media Browser you can click on one sample and then cycle thru all the samples in a folder using the arrow keys and hear them. Is this another throwback to upgrading?

Yes I can confirm - the browser in X1d is actually very broken.

You are correct, in 8.5 it works fine.

In X1d, you can expect to have same very strange behaviour depending on what options are set.

- With "Loop Preview" selected, it does loop OK. but unless you have "Preview at Host Tempo" select too, when you click on a file it often (if not always) like goes into "Filename Edit" mode, and the up/down arrows move the cursor within the filename.

- Without "Loop Preview" selected, you can only audition a sample once by clicking on it. To audition the same sample again, you have to head for the "Play" button.

Maybe some other funnies too, I foget because I seldom use it, and probably avoid it because of these things.

So yes, the browser is in a poor state in X1d (expanded mind you - can't vouch for Unexpanded :-).
Maybe someone else can confirm if "Unexpanded" is the same ?.

These are examples of the type of bug which I believe deserves fixing in X1 in a final update.
Along with a few others, especially like the "can't fastbounce tempo synced effects" which is a real workflow killer.

I do object somewhat to things like this not being fixed before another major version release, simply because you are forced to upgrade in the hope these are fixed, only to find when you upgrade you're landed with a host of new problems.

Somehow, I don't think I'm alone.

I would rather pay more money for a product with a higher QA benchmark and slower release cycle.
But just look at the way the software market works - they're always rushing to get the new version out the door, because that's what the competition is doing.

Fortunately for me, the broken browser is not a deal breaker.
In fact, I haven't even logged a bug report about it. And really that's because it gets to the point where you have to just get on and use the software, instead of chasing up and logging all the bugs - otherwise I wouldn't get any work done.


Cheers - Cliff