This should fan the flames about the argument whether Sonar needs better notation or whether users should buy a separation notation program.
 
It seems Sibelius is in a bit of disarray, and Finale may be the only product left.
 
http://www.artsjournal.com/slippeddisc/2012/08/at-sibelius-software-the-last-staff-turn-out-the-lights.html
 
This is disheartening as I just read a great review of Sibelius 7 and was planning to buy it.

A sad tale.

I have signed their petition.

it's business.. regardless of how you feel about the company..

less people are dealing with the notation side , I mean if your classically trained etc.. fair enough BUT a fair few people don't use notion in the main (I would if say I got to the point to use string players etc)

I'm sure the coders can walk into another job elsewhere.. hopefully it's coders who are muso's and not just coders.. a few companies who will remain nameless got in serious stook with such buggy code... think samplers.. nuff said..

...And yet almost every major DAW company has improved or added notation in the last few years.  Protools added it.  DP 8 improves on it.  Cubase has improved it in the last releases.  There are more home/project studio, one-man/women composers scoring for visual media than ever in history.  There is far more media that needs music than even 2 years ago.  The need for notation is actually growing.  Sure there will always more people jamming their pop songs into a computer but there are many situations where notation is the only way to do the job.   Cakewalk is the ONLY one of the major DAW companies that has vastly behind-the-curve inferior notation.

Fog

, I mean if your classically trained etc.. 

...Or play jazz, are a studio musician, compose for media, arrange music, teach music...   Classical music is the smallest part of the equation.

... or study music composition and theory or just plain can read music.

There's also Notion.   http://www.notionmusic.com/

 Not to mention the FREE

http://musescore.org/

I can't say I'm suprised about it. Finale was geared for the education side since the early 90s. It may be the Sibelious never took hold of that market which is huge as far as notation programs go.
 
Come to think of it. I had a friend who had a studio at the time and he had it for a short while. None of them knew how to read though. They continued to work on their MC500mkIIs. To be fair, the MC500's were probably more capable at the time.

konradh


This should fan the flames about the argument whether Sonar needs better notation or whether users should buy a separation notation program.
 
It seems Sibelius is in a bit of disarray, and Finale may be the only product left.
 
http://www.artsjournal.com/slippeddisc/2012/08/at-sibelius-software-the-last-staff-turn-out-the-lights.html
 
This is disheartening as I just read a great review of Sibelius 7 and was planning to buy it.

Thanks for the info Konrad,
 
I've just signed the petition - I use Sibelius and I recon it's a really great piece of software. I was worried when Avid took it over ... and rightly so by the looks.
 
 
I don't know where some people get the idea that only classically trained people use and read written music.
 
I'm sure this following comment will fan some other flames, but so what !.
 
I know very few musicians who can't read music, but I know plenty of pretenders.
And by pretender, I mean someone who states they are a musician, but often can't even name chords by sound, let alone read music. Many people call themselves musicians because they know a few chords and can closely reproduce (by ear) what someone else already played, if they spend enough time working it out the hard way.
 
NOTE: That's not to say they can't play some great sounding stuff, or that they're not talented, or anything derogetory at all actually. But I know some people will see otherwise (gee ... human nature :-)
 
You certainly can't join an orchestra if you can't read music ... you definitely HAVE to be a musician, with good notation reading ability to join an orchestra. NOTE: I did NOT say "classical orchestra".
 
 
Just like you can't claim to be a carpenter, if you can't read a building plan.
Can you imagine it ? ...
 - Hi, I'm Bob the carpenter, I'm here to build your new conservatory. (Give conservatory plans to Bob)
 - I hand the conservatory plans to Bob.
 - Bob says ... sorry mate, can you just describe what you want and I'll try to make it as close as I can. I don't read plans.
 
So what would you call Bob ... a carpenter ?. I doubt it.
 
 
Anyway ... there are plenty of people who read music, and are learning to read music.
What's happening here with Sibelius is a shame and a crime.
 
 
Cheers - Cliff