Even Powertracks from PG music does this it has a feature called offset. The measure can look something like -2 -1 0 1 2 3

Are you sure Sonar does not have a feature like this somewhere?

Logic does it as well, of course. Did so in version 3 where I started. I wouldn't even be very astonished if Cakewalk in pre-Sonar times did it too.

I started with Cakewalk 2.0 for DOS, it didn't have "pre-roll", either. But if you played MIDI notes during the count-in, it would capture those, and place them all at 1:01:000, which is still does, effectively quantizing that first hit. But at least you don;t lose it like you do with audio.
 
My guess is that adding pre-roll (or whatever you want to call it) will mess with so many pieces of code that depend on where the audio clock starts in relation to the MBT timeline that, Cakewalk have been avoiding it, even though it's a quite popular feature request, and there are no doubt Cakewalk staffers who would like to have it.

Typically, in printed sheet music, the pickup notes, or "anacrusis", does NOT count as measure 1.


The first FULL measure is considered "measure 1"

Negative measures... Count me in!

Like this?

Somewhat tangential to the discussion:

Has anyone else noticed that Sonar X1 (and earlier) can't actually play a MIDI note that starts at 1:01:000 ?
If I set up Bar 1 to be a four beat count-in, and then rewind to start and press PLAY, I do not hear the first beat.

So, to work around this, I set the count-in bar at measure 2 and start the song/project for real at measure 3. 

I've done this for years, so long in fact that I've forgotten to be annoyed by it.

In the case of live recording projects, I'm sure it's not such a big deal, in that you kind of have to have a lead-in ("Rolling...") and you're normally not generating score or anything.

But I would LOVE to have a measure 1 offset in SONAR projects.

This should be no problem to "cure" by the Bakers ... unless ... (I leave this bit open for Cake to fill in :-)

How's this: An attribute called "offset" (as someone said) in Preferences where you could enter any number.  Whatever number you enter is deducted from Bar 1, i.e. if you put 4 in, then all bar numbering is moved to the right and you get  -3, -2, -1, 0, 1 etc.

Flexible, and should cover most cases (I say "most" as there'll always be at least one disagree-er :-)  Obvioulsy, this would also need to be reflected in printouts and all displays, etc.

F@ker


Like this?

Is this for real or a mock up?

I'll admit that I never specifically checked if this feature appeared recently in SONAR.

Thanks.

best regards,
mike

Mock