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2012/07/30 22:21:32
Todd
Returning to home recording after long hiatus and I'm a bit lost.  Last worked with Sonar 6.  Just installed X1 Producer Extended and EWQL Symphonic Silver.
 
After fighting with this much less familiar software for several hours I finally have my hardware responding correctly (I think)(Delta 44, Midiman 4x4 connected to 3 synths).  Haven't tried recording anything yet.
 
Anyway, I tried loading soft synths and couldn't get any sound.  Then I loaded a track with an instance of EWQL and again no sound.  Not sure at all what I may have missed since I've never used soft synths before.  What gives?
 
Todd
2012/07/30 22:32:28
daveny5
Did you insert a MIDI track and set the output of the MIDI track to the softsynth? 
2012/07/30 22:56:36
Todd
daveny5


Did you insert a MIDI track and set the output of the MIDI track to the softsynth? 

Whew!  I'm a dummy.  Got sound from synths (drums and True Pianos, etc. - with a lot of latency), but still nothing from EWQL.  Can't figure it out.  many thanks for getting me this far.
 
Todd
2012/07/30 23:29:07
cliffr
Could be MIDI cc7 (volume) and cc11 (expression).
 
With these types of libraries, you should typically always set these two (really, you should WORK them) in every track / patch that uses them.
 
 
I've seen various points of view about this, but once you know and understand, I think it's really quite simple.
 
There is a preverences option - something like "Zero all controllers on Stop".
A lot of people seem to "uncheck" (turn off) this option ... which is NOT the best at all.
There is another option ... something like "Search back controlller on Start".
 
Both those options should be turned ON.
That way, when you use MIDI CC to control Vol/Expression (or anything else), when you press Start / Play the last value used in the MIDI track will be fetched, so the following note will be played under the influence of the intended CC values.
 
You must however, then always remember, to actually set a MIDI CC for Vol/Expression at the start of every track ... which you should do anyway.
 
Good luck :-)
 
 
Cheers - Cliff
 
2012/07/31 04:16:23
Bristol_Jonesey
Todd


daveny5


Did you insert a MIDI track and set the output of the MIDI track to the softsynth? 

Whew!  I'm a dummy.  Got sound from synths (drums and True Pianos, etc. - with a lot of latency), but still nothing from EWQL.  Can't figure it out.  many thanks for getting me this far.
 
Todd


The first thing to do with EWQL is to load a patch - have you done this?
2012/07/31 06:54:59
cclarry
Bristol_Jonesey


Todd


daveny5


Did you insert a MIDI track and set the output of the MIDI track to the softsynth? 

Whew!  I'm a dummy.  Got sound from synths (drums and True Pianos, etc. - with a lot of latency), but still nothing from EWQL.  Can't figure it out.  many thanks for getting me this far.

Todd


The first thing to do with EWQL is to load a patch - have you done this?

+1
2012/07/31 11:42:36
congalocke
What Cliff says! Check your velocity...I remember loading a Cinematic Strings Lib and not getting any sound and this was the reason. Maybe you have it loaded but velocity, dynamics or something is zero so when you hit the keys you get silence.
2012/07/31 21:25:02
Todd
Thanks I'll try altering velocity.  I have the education version so came with no documentation.  Funny thing is that whether in Sonar or as standalone the VU meters show a note is being played, the Midiman indicates it is seeing the note being played, but no sound.  Fingers crossed...
 
Todd
2012/07/31 22:09:53
cliffr
Todd


Thanks I'll try altering velocity.  I have the education version so came with no documentation.  Funny thing is that whether in Sonar or as standalone the VU meters show a note is being played, the Midiman indicates it is seeing the note being played, but no sound.  Fingers crossed...
 
Todd
Hey Todd,
 
I'd almost bet it's the MIDI cc7 (Volume) and cc11(Expression) you need to set - assuming you have a patch loaded.
 
1)  Load instrument patch.
    Play some notes ... if no sound then;
 
2)  Set/Send MIDI cc7 to 100 or above.
    Play some notes ... if no sound then;
 
3)  Set/Send MIDI cc7 to 100 or above.
    Play some notes ...
 
 
Then come back and let us know the results.
 
 
Cheers - Cliff
2012/08/01 03:45:19
Bristol_Jonesey
Also check the output routing of your audio tracks - make sure they are pointing either to your master bus or main outs.
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