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2012/03/23 09:14:47
michaelhanson
MakeShift 

  
They surely aren't going to abandon PC....it appears to be greatly successful for them.    
   
  
Yes, we all know that cakewalk has a history of developing good ideas to their fullest potential... 




Well, I am talking in the near future of course.  I don't think anything in the software world is going to be long term.  It has to keep evolving and changing or you fall behind and have nothing to sell.  PC is the course they have taken for the near future.  If it continues to sell, it will continue to be developed.  That is all I am saying.


We can suggest things that we would like to see in the future and maybe if Cake sees the suggestions enough, they will develope them.  After all, one of the first suggestions that was made by many when PC first came out was that an LA2 would be a great addition.  Pultec was mentioned often as well.   The only real vote that we have on any thing is with our pocket book.  If it does n't sell, it won't be developed.
2012/03/23 09:15:14
John T
trimph1


What is really funny is that a friend of mine still uses his PII based computer for music making with all kinds of VST's in it running on an a tracker program...and is still loving how it still works for him...

Fatboy Slim's main computer is still an Atari ST.
 
Wonder if he feels creatively held back by the grey colour.
2012/03/23 09:21:17
lfm
FastBikerBoy


lfm


FastBikerBoy


Here's a question........

If VST development stopped today, right now, who here wouldn't be able to cope and produce good music?



No didn't think the problem was that big.......

Me, for one...



No Vst effects and no VST instruments, then the idea of computer based recording is gone for me.

I would revert back to portastudio....I like physical faders and stuff.


I think you mis-understood me, I didn't mean the existing ones would be taken away, I meant no new ones produced.....


Yes, I got you wrong.

It would still make me prepare plan B, when VST support is taken away.
Eventually that would happend.

There will be new OS'es demanding changes to plugins etc.

Today there are no worries....I'm preparing for the next couple of years doing full time music production.
It's beyond that horizon my worries are....will investments today soon to be a waste....
2012/03/23 09:23:55
John T
What is plan b? Tinned food in the basement? Cabin in the hills and a rifle?
2012/03/23 09:23:57
FastBikerBoy
keith


MakeShift

 
They surely aren't going to abandon PC....it appears to be greatly successful for them.   
  
 
Yes, we all know that cakewalk has a history of developing good ideas to their fullest potential...

[he said sarcastically]
 


So Cakewalk abandon the PC.... I still fail to see how that affects those that haven't chosen to buy into it in the first place.

2012/03/23 09:26:57
John T
It's a fantastically meta kind of complaint, isn't it? "If I bought this thing that I don't want and haven't bought, I'd feel a bit cheated if some hypothetical scenario came about in relation to it". Well, who hasn't felt like that before?
2012/03/23 09:29:42
Jind
Whats somewhat humorous to me is that for quite sometime it was a frequent conversation point that Cakewalk should stop forcing customers to pay for synths they already had, for plugins that would not be used because of the quality of third party VST options availlable, for .... well you get the drift.  Well the day comes when Cakewalk listen to this concern and go to an À la carte system for additional plugins where if you don't want it, you can choose not to buy it - leaving the choice to have it or not up to the end user, and guess what the end result is - people complain that either they are not getting it for free, or that it's an evil plot to reduce the functionality of the core product.  

Funny how these things work.

ProChannel seems to be (from the development effort put towards it and the quality of modules released) a successful product for Cakewalk, one that is generating revenue for them.  I can't possibly see how that's a bad thing. I've bought into the concept for similar reasons to others - I like the way it works into my workflow.  Will I buy every PC module?  Who knows - if I find the plugin useful to me, I will buy it.  I could choose to spend my money on third party plugins as well - but it's my choice, one of the benefits of an À la carte system.  For many years Cakewalk has had portions of it's development dedicated to optional components for the various levels of their base product - this is nothing new.  The core product remains.
2012/03/23 09:29:59
FastBikerBoy
Yes, I got you wrong.

It would still make me prepare plan B, when VST support is taken away.
Eventually that would happend.

I'm willing to take a pretty big bet that VST support doesn't disappear in the next 10 years. As someone has pointed out DX is still supported and that died a death nearly 10 years ago IIRC.
There will be new OS'es demanding changes to plugins etc.

That's progress, else I'd still be on an Amiga and others on Win 3.1

Today there are no worries....I'm preparing for the next couple of years doing full time music production.
It's beyond that horizon my worries are....will investments today soon to be a waste....

Why would investing money in today's developments be a waste? If I never ever bought another computer or piece of software or hardware ever again, I still have what I've paid for to use and make music with. I could carry on making music for the next hundred years with the equipment I have now, breakdowns permitting of course, but they can be fixed. I've still got several friends that pay huge amounts of money for hi-fi units made 20 or 30 years ago.

It ain't suddenly gonna get turned off like a tap.
2012/03/23 09:30:54
John T
Well, Jind, there you go. And thus the people who just like to complain reveal themselves.
2012/03/23 09:32:50
trimph1
John T


trimph1


What is really funny is that a friend of mine still uses his PII based computer for music making with all kinds of VST's in it running on an a tracker program...and is still loving how it still works for him...

Fatboy Slim's main computer is still an Atari ST.
 
Wonder if he feels creatively held back by the grey colour.



I have here a couple of Amigas as well..still use them for gaming...





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