i suspect it was just a "my way or the highway" rather than a "my way or die"... but that's what people forget - noone's forcing them to use sonar...

I don't know. It seems a lot of people are getting into more non-VST3 related formats as well. Look at Reason...Rack Extensions. PT with their AAX/RTAS scenarios, and such. 

There are a lot more choices out there...a lot more.

And, for that I am glad that Cakewalk has taken the opportunity to go that route as well.

well, pt & reason are the only ones? i think the moan is about resources going on that (pc mod dev), rather than more global/generic improvements/fixes... just some kind of roadmap would be useful :) and fwiw, i'm not sure it's a sound business plan (it's certainly not a technical decision) as they're excluding anyone who doesn't own sonar-ex...

Well, I guess Pluggo became Max4Live and the Kore2 wrapper thing went south as well. There are certain FL fx generators that seem to fall into that grey area as well.

But it seems that there is a lot of ideas being flung around. Some of this may be placed at the feet of Steinberg's push to have VST3 and the lack of support that came about for it.

As far as a roadmap goes, I find that X1d has answered a lot of concerns and ....well...may they carry on with X2.

pwal


well, pt & reason are the only ones? i think the moan is about resources going on that (pc mod dev), rather than more global/generic improvements/fixes... just some kind of roadmap would be useful :) and fwiw, i'm not sure it's a sound business plan (it's certainly not a technical decision) as they're excluding anyone who doesn't own sonar-ex...

Well that's not true. The last update to X1D was applicable to both Expanded & non-Expanded users, so you're a little off the mark there.

What he means is that stuff that he doesn't like shouldn't be worked on at all. I think he's onto something, and if he's got the money to pay the entire annual wage bill for a DAW-making team by himself, I will set one up right now. Sounds like a dream business. In more senses than one.

meh

jonesy, i thought one needed expanded to use pc modules? (i didn't mean to exclude unexpanders from updates) ta

I don't know if it was this thread or another one, but somebody speculated that the coders implementing bug fixes would be a totally different team to the one desigining new plugins, which  sounds altogether reasonable.

Bapu and I were having that conversation on the first page.  I don't see why Cake would not run their progaming development unlike any other software company.  They typically divide up in teams and have specific assignments.  It's not like 2 guys are developing in their garage, get up each morning and say..."Hey, what should we work on to day."