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2012/07/25 19:52:11
M_Glenn_M
I've just started doing multiple takes in layers in a single track. 
A very cool idea. A way better than what I was doing, which was record over until I got the "perfect" take or make separate tracks.
Now, with a ton of data, I'm wondering how best to edit. 
I assume I'd use mute for the real screwups but is there a smart process for determining which part of which track to hear?
EG play each track on it's own and kill the bad parts then see if enough is left to make a continuous track?
If not, fix the best of the flubs or set up the mics and punch record it?
Then do you bounce or do you leave it as layers?
Other tips?


2012/07/25 20:06:19
Freex
When in Layers you should see the MS (mute solo) for each layer, you can go thru them that way.

Or you can mute and unmute clips with K.

If you just want to hear a single clip, try auditioning it by selecting the clip and then using Shift+Space.

2012/07/25 23:42:50
Thatsastrat
You can also use the mute tool. Just select the portions of each take that you want by holding down ctrl and dragging the mute tool in the top portion of the clip. This will hi-light only what you want to hear and mute the same potions of all the other takes at the same time, Repeat as needed until your part is assembled, then you can bounce to track if you want to.
2012/07/26 00:02:24
AGershon
Thatsastrat


You can also use the mute tool. Just select the portions of each take that you want by holding down ctrl and dragging the mute tool in the top portion of the clip. This will hi-light only what you want to hear and mute the same potions of all the other takes at the same time, Repeat as needed until your part is assembled, then you can bounce to track if you want to.

Holy crap ^^^ this is awesome. Thank you Senor Strat. I've been slogging through multiple drum takes cutting into clips and muting them individually. This is way better :)
2012/07/26 00:34:44
mattplaysguitar
First step is to duplicate and archive a copy.

Second step is to double check that you correctly duplicated and archived a copy!!

Nothing worse than bouncing it all done to keep things clean and realising later on that you sung it weird at one part and don't have a backup to look to.


I personally line up my 8 or so takes and cut the crap out of each one at the appropriate points for detailed selectioning. I don't like the mute tool personally. I prefer to work in individual edits as I'll be slip editing everything smoothly later anyway. Saves me time in the long run and I can use my shortcuts to much better advantage.

Remember the 'k' button. It's your mute button. My next step is to loop a section. Select all but the top take and hit 'k', thus muting everything but the top. Listen. Then highlight the top and the second take. Then hit 'k' and it essentially exclusive solos to the second take by unmuting it and muting the other one. Allows for quick transitioning through the takes. And remember to use the ctrl key when selecting multiple clips. It's your friend.

This method works well for me and I can't see anything else really being much faster so I'm pretty happy with it.
2012/07/26 01:17:45
M_Glenn_M
Excellent stuff guys, thanks. 
I just KNEW there would be some tricks on this one.
Glenn
2012/07/26 02:17:35
Kalle Rantaaho
My workflow with layers is (usually with vocals):

- I split the layers into  clips that serve purpose
- I audition the clips  (one section/phrase at a time)
- I drag the good ones to a new track above the layertrack. .
- I archive the original track
2012/07/26 03:21:51
M_Glenn_M
This seems simple and effective too.
Is there a way to drag to a new track that locks the time line position?
2012/07/26 04:31:25
Bristol_Jonesey
Just like Kalle, I split my takes up into separate clip sections and audition them one at a time, using the M/S buttons to the left of the layers.

I'll then mute the ones I don't want and label the ones I want to keep as "KEEPERS"

When I've done, I drag all of my Keepers to a blank track, listen critically at the clip boundaries, slip editing or cross fading as necessary to eliminate any clicks.
2012/07/26 04:32:32
Bristol_Jonesey
M_Glenn_M


This seems simple and effective too.
Is there a way to drag to a new track that locks the time line position?


To copy and maintain position, use ctrl + shift + drag.
To move and maintain position, use shift + drag.
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