Bristol_Jonesey

M_Glenn_M


This seems simple and effective too.
Is there a way to drag to a new track that locks the time line position?

To copy and maintain position, use ctrl + shift + drag.
To move and maintain position, use shift + drag.

I reckon I use that one pretty much every single time I open up SONAR. Couldn't live without it.

mattplaysguitar


 I personally line up my 8 or so takes and cut the crap out of each one at the appropriate points for detailed selectioning. I don't like the mute tool personally. I prefer to work in individual edits as I'll be slip editing everything smoothly later anyway. Saves me time in the long run and I can use my shortcuts to much better advantage.

Remember the 'k' button. It's your mute button. My next step is to loop a section. Select all but the top take and hit 'k', thus muting everything but the top. Listen. Then highlight the top and the second take. Then hit 'k' and it essentially exclusive solos to the second take by unmuting it and muting the other one. Allows for quick transitioning through the takes. And remember to use the ctrl key when selecting multiple clips. It's your friend.

This method works well for me and I can't see anything else really being much faster so I'm pretty happy with it.

Upon further reflection, this method sounds superior to the ctrl+mute tool. Because when you've got everything cut together from all the takes you're going to want to crossfade between clips.


Is there a way to crossfade your selections if you've used the ctrl+mute tool method outlined by Thatsastrat? 

Here's a video of one of the methods I use.

Another very informative thread. I've been working with layers for quite a while now, but will be a tad more efficient with some of the proposed shortcuts. And FBB's video is also very interesting. Nice workflow!

AGershon

mattplaysguitar


I personally line up my 8 or so takes and cut the crap out of each one at the appropriate points for detailed selectioning. I don't like the mute tool personally. I prefer to work in individual edits as I'll be slip editing everything smoothly later anyway. Saves me time in the long run and I can use my shortcuts to much better advantage.

Remember the 'k' button. It's your mute button. My next step is to loop a section. Select all but the top take and hit 'k', thus muting everything but the top. Listen. Then highlight the top and the second take. Then hit 'k' and it essentially exclusive solos to the second take by unmuting it and muting the other one. Allows for quick transitioning through the takes. And remember to use the ctrl key when selecting multiple clips. It's your friend.

This method works well for me and I can't see anything else really being much faster so I'm pretty happy with it.

Upon further reflection, this method sounds superior to the ctrl+mute tool. Because when you've got everything cut together from all the takes you're going to want to crossfade between clips.


Is there a way to crossfade your selections if you've used the ctrl+mute tool method outlined by Thatsastrat? 

I believe I read that this method will put the cut at a zero crossing, thus controlling pops, and clicks.
Cross fades should not be needed, unless you need the fade from one clip to the next for the effect you are trying to achieve.

Cutting at the zero crossing is the ticket for getting pop and click free edits, 99% of the time. Some editing could still be required, depending on the material.

Excellent thread. 

I knew of the Shift+Drag to keep a clip in timeline. And I knew the "make a copy" combo CTRL+Drag. But I never thought to combine them for Copy AND keep in timeline!!!

I'll give a little hint here also: Don't try to move clips from one layer to another to place them in an certain order you would like. The clips end up going to some weird spot and also making new layers for no apparent reason. Does anyone have a workaround for this? Or am I doing something wrong?

Here is my reasoning: I also have at least 4-8 takes/layers on a trk. I audition them, then do my thing and the good stuff ends up on a separate trk. But like someone said, after listening more closely, I find that one little part needs changing. And this is usually long after I've made the original takes. So when I go back and listen again, I don't remember which ones were the best ones. So I have to listen to them all!! If I could rearrange the layers the way I want, I would put the best ones up on top, and the worst on bottom. Every time I try this, the layers act funny and do weird things like I move one and all the others move randomly!!

Grem


Excellent thread. 

I knew of the Shift+Drag to keep a clip in timeline. And I knew the "make a copy" combo CTRL+Drag. But I never thought to combine them for Copy AND keep in timeline!!!

I'll give a little hint here also: Don't try to move clips from one layer to another to place them in an certain order you would like. The clips end up going to some weird spot and also making new layers for no apparent reason. Does anyone have a workaround for this? Or am I doing something wrong?

Here is my reasoning: I also have at least 4-8 takes/layers on a trk. I audition them, then do my thing and the good stuff ends up on a separate trk. But like someone said, after listening more closely, I find that one little part needs changing. And this is usually long after I've made the original takes. So when I go back and listen again, I don't remember which ones were the best ones. So I have to listen to them all!! If I could rearrange the layers the way I want, I would put the best ones up on top, and the worst on bottom. Every time I try this, the layers act funny and do weird things like I move one and all the others move randomly!!

Any takes that I feel need attention and I need to go back to, or on the other hand are great and need to be kept,
I change the colour of the clip (in the inspector) to Red or Green respectively, just until I have the final comp'd track.

Freex

Any takes that I feel need attention and I need to go back to, or on the other hand are great and need to be kept,
I change the colour of the clip (in the inspector) to Red or Green respectively, just until I have the final comp'd track.

That's an excellent work around. Never did cross my mind to use different colors!! Thanks!

Where is the mute tool and what does it look like?  Thanks.

konradh


Where is the mute tool and what does it look like?  Thanks.

The mute tool is accessed by right clicking on the erase tool and choosing mute.  I do it from the HUD.
 
If you drag it on the bottom half of clip it mutes, on the upper half it un-mutes.