Road to Tabriz- New Mix_1-30-14
https://soundcloud.com/bats-brew/road-to-tabriz-new-mix_1-30-14
 
you can download the full bandwidth wav file if you want.
the wav file sounds so much better than the streaming..........
maybe the drums still need to be louder?
different mastering approach on this one as well, it's not as loud, but should be more dynamic.

a new mix approach, using a new drum kit, really mostly aesthetic changes,
but if anyone wants to compare to the original, here's the link:
https://soundcloud.com/ba.-brew/the-road-to-tabriz

When I listen to this style of music I like to feel it as well as hear it.
 
Yep I can feel that kick and feel that bass as well as hear all those nice mids with the nicely balanced highs.
 
Just looking at the two waveforms I can see that mix to is more open with better dynamic difference.
 
Better sill my furry ears tell when I A/B the two that the second mix has more air, more breathing space and I have always believed my ears over any visual input.
 
Nice Gonzo nice thanks for sharing the differences.
 
I still think you have more fingers than you are letting on.

Sounds great.  I would lift the kick up a .5 db.  Nice and smooth sound.  

Liked this. Especially great use of the wah. The bass is plenty punchy at this end and I like the transition you did . The beginning doesn't hit you gradually like some songs, it's in your face right away. lol. You are one talented guitarist Bat.

I'm with Wookie, the second mix has more air, breathing space and better dynamics. You always seem to come up with some really nice guitar licks. I like the different drum kit sound as well. Nice one Gonzo. Now that this is done you can find some time to comment on others music so we can be as good as you. Thanks for sharing.
 
Peace and Blessings, John

ah, some folks checked it out, glad i looked!
thanks guys....

wookie
i was hoping, that what you describe, is what would be heard.

that's what i heard as well...

the moment i bounced the samples out of superior, into 24 bit audio files, an amazing thing happened..
i could really hear the samples.
 
differently, than i hear them thru the superior mixer into sonar,
and whether or not they will sound the same to me if i just route every piece of kit to individual tracks (as danny suggests) as they do the way i import them into the project, remains to be seen.
 
but whereas i had to do a LOT of tweaking coming out of the superior mixer, once in the project as their own audio files, i pretty much just brought the faders up, and voila, there was the drum mix.
 
now, i DO have my bag of tricks; specific eq of snare and kick, levels of bleed, Limiter across a 'tom' bus with toms only routed there, separate cymbals bus...........stuff like that...
but the basic drum tracks just sound better to me with this new method.
 
crap, i have 24 tracks of just DRUMS!!

i did export them as MONO tracks, so it makes a lot of extras on the rooms and overheads, but they are easy to gang and move together.
i hard pan them all left and right, as mono files.
maybe it would be just as easy to NOT split them out.

as far as the 'WAVEFORMS', you can only see those accurately IF you download the wave files and compare within the DAW; the SOUNDCLOUD waveforms are pretty much bogus, simply formatted to fit the screen just so.

i have changed my mastering scheme, backed off on compression and limiting a bit, but am still getting fairly dynamic sounding mixes that come out at a dynamic range of about 9, which is still pretty hot.
that is from a mix level with RMS at -23.

 
no sh!te.
 
i mix very conservatively. with a really wide Crest factor.
 

Gonzo, I did download both versions, the wave form viewed, I mentioned above, were as Soundforge displayed them, the soundcloud view is a token gesture.

I don't need to say it's a ridiculous piece of songwriting and guitar wizardship.  The drum sound is stupendous.  Me=jealous.

The song sounds very good.  I had some technical problems on my end that made listening a little choppy, but that has nothing to do with the quality of the tune, the performance, or the recording.  Time for a new PC.  

Hi BB, very enjoyable piece to listen to, must be fun to play, sounds like it. Excellent mix, though on my crappy Bose computer speakers the bass is overpowering the guitar a bit, but than again I like my guitars loud ; )
 
Rik