2016/02/10 14:42:21
jbow
Why would Martin loan a priceless Martin from the Martin Museum to Quentin Tarantino’s people for use in a movie in the first place? I bet they don't do that again...
http://www.guitarplayer.com/gear/1012/hateful-eight-makers-never-told-martin-how-its-priceless-guitar-was-destroyed/56516
 

 
I suppose they are not called The Hateful Eight for nothing... wow. Smashed it against a beam, words fail me...
 
If you don't want to click the link...
From the GuitarPlayer article:

The makers of Quentin Tarantino’s The Hateful Eight never told Martin Guitars how a historic acoustic guitar on loan from its museum came to be destroyed on the set of the 2015 film.

Dick Boak of C.F. Martin said the company did not learn that the instrument was smashed by actor Kurt Russell until the incident was reported on Tuesday by Reverb.com, an online marketplace for gear. That story was itself based on an interview with the film’s sound mixer, Mark Ulano, that ran on SSNInsider.com.

Boak, director of the museum, archives and special projects for C.F. Martin & Co, said the company was initially told the guitar had been damaged in an accident on the set. “We assumed that a scaffolding or something fell on it,” Boak told Reverb.com, in response to its story.

The film’s script included a scene, shown below, in which Jennifer Jason Leigh’s character, Daisy Domergue, plays the Martin guitar before Russell’s character, John Ruth, smashes it against a beam. A prop guitar was supposed to have been substituted at the last moment. According to Ulano, Russell was not told of the swap and proceeded to destroy the Martin, an act that is retained in the film’s release.

“All this about the guitar being smashed being written into the script and that somebody just didn’t tell the actor, this is all new information to us,” Boak said. “We didn’t know anything about the script or Kurt Russell not being told that it was a priceless, irreplaceable artifact from the Martin Museum.”

In his interview, Ulano suggested that Martin initially took the guitar’s destruction in stride. According to SSNInsider, upon learning that a mishap had occurred, Martin reps asked, “Do you need another one and can we please have all the pieces to display in our museum?”

While the pieces were returned to Martin for examination, Boak said restoration is impossible. What’s more, the guitar was insured for its purchase price, not its value as a historic museum artifact, although Boak says it is ultimately the preservation of history that is important, not the money.

“We want to make sure that people know that the incident was very distressing to us,” Boak says. “We can’t believe that it happened.”
 
As a result of the incident, Boak said Martin will no longer loan guitars to movies “under any circumstances.”
 
 
J
2016/02/10 15:19:01
KenB123
Very odd. Everything in the movies are fake. Why not just have a fake Martin. Weird.
2016/02/10 15:49:08
TheMaartian
KenB123
Very odd. Everything in the movies are fake. Why not just have a fake Martin. Weird.

Like the "fake" gun that killed Brandon Lee during the filming of The Crow. All so sad.
 

2016/02/10 16:07:09
Jim Roseberry
Can you imagine how pissed Martin must be???
This is just THE most careless/stupid (totally avoidable) circumstance.
And they get, "Oh, I'm sorry... I didn't know it was real."
 
Little bit of a rant:
I never understood the mentality of smashing guitars... or anything else.
I don't think it's cool when a rock-star smashes or trashes a $3000 instrument.
Give that instrument away...
Give it to a kid in the audience who can only dream of having/playing it.
Inspire someone for a lifetime...
 
 
2016/02/10 17:17:02
sharke
I read an account of the scene somewhere else which said that Tanantino was "delighted" with Jennifer Leigh's genuine reaction of shock when the guitar she knew was the real one was smashed. That guy is such a douchebag, I just wanna slap his face raw.
2016/02/10 18:00:25
Beepster
Total wankadoodle behavior fershure and if the premise was to have the actress believe it was a priceless relic they could have given her another guit and just SAID it was the museum piece.
 
Still... this stinks a little of some product placement/marketing shenanigans.
 
Outside of guitar players/music oriented folks who would really know about the Martin brand (which is obviously a very nice brand)? Conjuring up some wacky Hollywood shenanigans like this could plant the name into the minds of laymen who'd otherwise go "durr... I done heard of teh Gibzins and thuh Fendarz... Imma gunna get me one of doz to play at the campgroundz".
 
The outrage from real guitar players about a priceless Martin getting destroyed just adds to the hype/branding.
 
If it was staged... pretty clever branding.
 
If it wasn't... this will only be good for Martin's sales so no loss to them.
 
Either way... for us guit hounds, definitely a cringe worthy event.
 
/has smashed a few guits onstage
//but was getting paid to do so
///they were cheapos bought specifically for the task
2016/02/10 18:07:31
TheMaartian
Jim Roseberry
Can you imagine how pissed Martin must be???
This is just THE most careless/stupid (totally avoidable) circumstance.
And they get, "Oh, I'm sorry... I didn't know it was real."
 
Little bit of a rant:
I never understood the mentality of smashing guitars... or anything else.
I don't think it's cool when a rock-star smashes or trashes a $3000 instrument.
Give that instrument away...
Give it to a kid in the audience who can only dream of having/playing it.
Inspire someone for a lifetime...

Best Rant Yet!
 

2016/02/10 18:46:09
craigb
Jim Roseberry
Little bit of a rant:
I never understood the mentality of smashing guitars... or anything else.
I don't think it's cool when a rock-star smashes or trashes a $3000 instrument.
Give that instrument away...
Give it to a kid in the audience who can only dream of having/playing it.
Inspire someone for a lifetime...

 
^^^^This!
 
2016/02/10 19:24:08
Jesse Screed
Hello, I'm sorry to hear about the Martin.  It sounds like a total lack of communication and hubris.
 
However, I have to come clean.  I once blew an acoustic guitar up with an M-80.  It was a guitar that I found on the side of the road, it had been rained on and was unplayable, and had obviously been in the elements for quite a long time.  A friend and I made a video and the guitar exploding was part of the production.  I must admit, at the time it was pretty cool, and I look back on it with fond memories.  The crazy part was when the carpet caught on fire and we nearly burned the apartment down.
 
I would not blow up a vintage museum piece though. 
 
I watched Monterrey Pop the other day.  There was a lot of smashing going on.  Although it would have been nice if Jimi would have given the strat to a kid, I love watching Jimi start that thing on fire.  He did that guitar justice, but he was voodoo personified...Tarantino?  Not so much, but my perspective is skewed.
 
Jesse Q. Screed
2016/02/10 20:05:24
jbow
Jesse Screed
Hello, I'm sorry to hear about the Martin.  It sounds like a total lack of communication and hubris.
 
However, I have to come clean.  I once blew an acoustic guitar up with an M-80.  It was a guitar that I found on the side of the road, it had been rained on and was unplayable, and had obviously been in the elements for quite a long time.  A friend and I made a video and the guitar exploding was part of the production.  I must admit, at the time it was pretty cool, and I look back on it with fond memories.  The crazy part was when the carpet caught on fire and we nearly burned the apartment down.
 
I would not blow up a vintage museum piece though. 
 
I watched Monterrey Pop the other day.  There was a lot of smashing going on.  Although it would have been nice if Jimi would have given the strat to a kid, I love watching Jimi start that thing on fire.  He did that guitar justice, but he was voodoo personified...Tarantino?  Not so much, but my perspective is skewed.
 
Jesse Q. Screed


If you ever do it again can you make a video.
 
I agree with Sharke. This guy (Tanantino) is really smarmy. If he really was delighted Martin should take him to civil court. I bet a jury would take him to the bank. I don't normally favor lawsuits but this guy deserves one.
 
I am delighted with Danny's Rant!
 
J
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