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  • Harrison Mixbus 3.0-3146 now available. (p.3)
2016/01/16 07:48:59
Leadfoot
bapu
jih64
kitekrazy1
 
 Typical open source developers.  I'm glad I'm far closer to reality.  They have this attitude like a pacifist nation is going to rule the world after Microsoft and Apple destroy each other. Meanwhile they are in the pumpkin patch with Charlie Brown waiting for the Great Pumpkin.




LOL , funny, and fairly accurate. I can remember 10+ years ago messing around with Linux for a few years, next year was always going to be the year of Linux, of course it never came, and they wondered why everyone mocked them, but didn't stop them from proclaiming the same the next year and every subsequent year, I guess they are working on if they keep saying it, it's got to  eventually happen . Unfortunately I don't think it ever will. There are a few open source programs that are ok, but for the majority, no, not when stacked up against the 'real' competition.
 
 I remember messing around with Ardour years ago, and while it has come a long way, it really hasn't compared to what is available in the commercial world. Same as Linux, a few advancements and a prettier GUI, but progress is slow. That's why it is a shame that Mixbus is based on Ardour, they would obviouosly have to wait for Ardour to do certain things, and it could be a long wait. They should have chosen something in the Windows world, and for more reasons than one would think, if you have spent any time in the Linux world, and aren't a Linux zealot you will know what I mean
 
 Unfortunately even though Mixbus is progressing, I think it's going to be a long road, it's going to be plagued by all the stuff that Linux is plagued by, just look at the VST support, it's not native to Linux and that is why it is in the state it is in Mixbus now, just look and compare to the Windows based DAW's. Even Harrisons own plugins are LV2 and not VST. As a DAW, mixbus is practically useless, unless you want to have to cherry pick your plugins, or just use Harrisons, and not be free to use whatever you like as you are in the majority of other DAW's. I recently tried it out, using it as a DAW, and just with 2 audio/guitar tracks, both with Bias Fx, and it was poping and spitting and farting to the point where it was useless, the DSP meter was going into the red, now I can and have had many more instances of BFx in projects in Studio One and Reaper, plus BFD3, heaps of other tracks with Trilian, synths, vocals, all with multiple effects applied, FX chains on the Master bus, and Studio One and Reaper and my PC don't even raise a sweat, it was similar when I was using Sonar as my main DAW before Studio One, no problems, but after updating Platinum recently to Lexington to check out the supposed performance improvements, I found it to started giving problems with spitting, popping and farting with relatively small projects, and it seems after reading the Sonar forum that I am certainly not alone. Meanwhile I can have the same projects in Studio One and Reaper expanded greatly with more tracks and plugins etc without issue, anyway.
 
 Mixbus certainly sounds good, there is no denying that, but basically all it can be used for is a big glorified channel strip of sorts, just use it for it's sound, importing your stems etc, because as a DAW or anything else, as it stands now it's useless, and comes with to many restraints and compromises to be worth putting up with, not to mention the instability when you attempt to use it for anything else. Unfortunately, considering what it is based on, and having experience in the Linux world, it's going to be a long time before Mixbus's situation changes and it is ready for prime time, but perhaps like Linux, next year might be it's year, unfortunately as with Linux, that year may also never come.
 
But as I said, it does sound good, and works well enough just importing your stems just to get 'that' sound, and at the price point, well, it's actually cheaper than a lot of channel strips.


Mixbus 3 for me is NOT a DAW and probaby never will be.
 
It's is a (virtual) Harrison console and that is how I plan to mainly use it.
 
If they get the DAW aspects working, more power to them. 
 
It's a mixing and/or mastering environment for me.

I agree.
2016/01/16 08:40:26
Sidroe
I use Mixbus for mastering quite a bit but I have not had too much problem recording live bands and church choirs with it. I don't look at it as ever being able to compete as a full blown DAW. It does serve well as an old school no-frills audio recorder though.
Yesterday was the first time I have ever really had a major problem and I'm not sure why. I tried the PortAudio-No Callback setting early in the morning and it crashed hard all day. I went thru h#$% all day yesterday trying to figure it out and then after talking to Ben at Harrison I tried that setting again. Mixbus fired right up and is running fine since. Go figure!
Scoble, I had no trouble with any versions of Mixbus up until 3146 yesterday. Ben said yesterday that they would be testing the Roland interfaces with Mixbus in a few weeks. Maybe if you tried the setting I did that solved my problem it could work. I know if it doesn't how much a pain in the $%^& it is. The new monitoring section in 3146 is worth the try.
2016/01/16 10:20:39
scoble08
Hey Sid,
I finally got the chance to install 3146 last night.  Chose PortAudio-No Callback....fired right up!  Off to investigate the monitor section possibilities!
I agree with many others...MB is one the best mixing and/or mastering environments available....worth much more than the price point at which it's offered. 
2016/01/16 13:23:57
Sidroe
Great, scoble!!
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