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  • "Maybe Tomorrow" (p.3)
2014/01/27 07:53:20
Guitarhacker
I like this tune.  Nice play on all the cliches we use ....Usually the advice is to not use cliches in song but what you have done is fill the tune with them and that works. In this case, it's the "over the top" use of them that makes the song what it is.  
 
Side note: I'm reading/studying a book on lyric writing, and just finished the chapter on cliches in song. they had several pages of them. As I read through the list I was thinking, "wow, I could write a song just stringing these suckers together".....
 
The music at the start hit me as very Neil Youngish in nature... the distorted loose sounding guitar. 
 
The guitar solo is kinda harsh with lots of high overtones.  Interesting way to modulate the song.... it works.
 
I too get the feeling that the drums don't fit the groove exactly like they should.
 
I was also going to comment on a few other things ....."maybe tomorrow but not today"...
 
Hey, it's a good song and I like it.
2014/01/27 10:42:54
ralphwiggum
Thanks again for listening to my song!!  I'm not usually thrilled with the results of my projects.  But this particular song, well I'm pretty proud of it.  It even has a key change which is something I've never done before.  So I appreciate the compliments and the critiques as well.
 
brundlefly
The main suggestion I would make is that you add an Intro; it gives the impression that I often have with my own stuff that "it starts in the middle". 

 
Dave, you are absolutely right!!  Many of my songs start too abruptly.  An intro is an interesting thought.  I've never really done too many of those.  Usually if I feel that it doesn't start right I'll add a count in or something.  Thank you for the suggestion.  You might not believe this but it's actually SD2. Lol.
 
Herb, as always your comments are greatly appreciated.  It's funny but a lot of my songs begin with a phrase or cliche' or something funny or profound that I've read or heard and then I write the song around that idea.  But you are right, this song is way over the top in that respect.  I was really going for the play on words here and there are so many "maybe's" in the world these days.  It's so hard to get a straightforward answer on anything.  Everything is "maybe".  It sounds like an interesting book you're reading.  What's the title?
 
Yes, Neil Young is a major influence.  Chaos is an environment that I thrive in.  Lol.  If everything is loud and garish it's easy to forgive any mistakes that might happen.  In fact, mistakes can actually enhance a chaotic song.  I love Oasis for that reason as well.  And Neil pretty much invented Americana, even though he's Canadian.  Hahaha.  But he borders on the fringe of country which is something I like.
 
You are so right about the lead guitar too.  But I had to let him have his way.  He uses way to many effects all the time but it was a compromise because he's such a good player.  I would have used a nice dry distorted amp sim but he wanted to use the take that we did from miking his amp.  And the drums are something I'm going to explore as well.  I think the drums (as many have said) could move the song better.  But I'm funny, I always move right on to the next project.  At some point I have to say "this is finished".  Otherwise I would continue to work on it forever.  But I will explore it.
 
Thank you so much for you sincere comments guys!!
 
 
 



2014/01/27 11:08:46
timidi
I can't get this song out of my head..................
So, I guess that's a good thing (for you)..
2014/01/27 11:15:30
ralphwiggum
Hahaha. That is very funny Tim.  Yes, it is better that you have the song stuck in your head because I have heard this song way too many times.  Lol.  But truthfully, this song doesn't hold a candle to your song "Dance Around It".  I am honored to get such a nice compliment from someone as talented as yourself. 
2014/01/27 11:29:55
Guitarhacker
ralphwiggum
 
Herb, as always your comments are greatly appreciated.  It's funny but a lot of my songs begin with a phrase or cliche' or something funny or profound that I've read or heard and then I write the song around that idea.  But you are right, this song is way over the top in that respect.  I was really going for the play on words here and there are so many "maybe's" in the world these days.  It's so hard to get a straightforward answer on anything.  Everything is "maybe".  It sounds like an interesting book you're reading.  What's the title?
 
Yes, Neil Young is a major influence.  Chaos is an environment that I thrive in.  Lol.  If everything is loud and garish it's easy to forgive any mistakes that might happen.  In fact, mistakes can actually enhance a chaotic song.  I love Oasis for that reason as well.  And Neil pretty much invented Americana, even though he's Canadian.  Hahaha.  But he borders on the fringe of country which is something I like.
 
You are so right about the lead guitar too.  But I had to let him have his way.  He uses way to many effects all the time but it was a compromise because he's such a good player.  I would have used a nice dry distorted amp sim but he wanted to use the take that we did from miking his amp.  And the drums are something I'm going to explore as well.  I think the drums (as many have said) could move the song better.  But I'm funny, I always move right on to the next project.  At some point I have to say "this is finished".  Otherwise I would continue to work on it forever.  But I will explore it.
 



 
Maybe you should title the song "Maybe".....
 
the book:  http://www.amazon.com/Writing-Better-Lyrics-Pat-Pattison/dp/1582975779/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1390840027&sr=1-2&keywords=pattison+pat
 
I hear you on the "never finished" aspect to songs.... occasionally I will go back to a song that I recorded years back and redo it again..... using the knowledge I have gained in the meantime.... and generally, it sounds so much better the second or third, or fourth time around.
2014/01/27 11:36:31
ralphwiggum
"Maybe" I'll fix the drums.  Lol.    
 
That is very true Herb.  Sometimes it's good to let something sit for a while.  Especially after having listened to it ad infinitum for the last months.  But I am not discounting the good advice that everyone has given me.  I think the drums could be much better.  But I'm working on a new song now.  Hahaha.
 
Thanks for the book title Herb.  Have a great day!!!
2014/01/27 12:15:41
theguitarplayer
Yes, the drum pattern is not working in this that great but a nice song even so. Lynn may have said it best. Nice start to something even better. Believe me my originals need lots of work as well, having made some of the same mistakes. ice song you have going, keep at it.
 
Peace and Blessings, John
2014/01/27 14:30:47
Starise
Hi Don.
Country isn't usually my main cuppa but I liked this. I liked the raw feeling in the music.I think the slightly dirty electric fits well but then I lean a little in in that direction.Made me feel like I was in a bar somewhere listening to a country bar band....but if I had been my wife would wonder where I was. Seriously this song is enough to make me listen to jacked up country.Thumbs up!
2014/01/27 16:57:38
ralphwiggum
Dirty, raw, jacked-up.  That is exactly what I was going for.  Thanks Mr. Starise!
 
John, I think we're all amateurs here.  But imagine one day when one of us hits it big!!!
2014/01/27 19:39:45
dcumpian
Hey Don,
 
I must have missed this earlier. Based on your comments and replies to others in this thread, I think you achieved what you were trying to achieve. Personally, I like this pretty much like it is. It has a very loose, organic, garage-band feel that feels very "live". The drums may not be perfect, but it's what I'd expect to hear from a garage drummer: very basic beat, no frills.
 
Regards,
Dan
 
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